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To: Caulkhead
A political defeat bought on by a defeatist elements here in America. Johnson's insistence on micromanaging every aspect of the war, always afraid as he put it of '' a bomb going down the smokestack of a Russian freighter'' in my opinion needlessly drew out the war.I've often wondered why one Democratic administration was able to prevail in one Asian war, Korea and not another. When Nixon resumed the bombing it bought the North Vietnamese back to the table. And yes, the North Vietnamese took over the country. In regards to the Falklands, war is never certain and to base the outcome of any current or future war on the previous is not a smart idea and could sometimes prove to be a fatal delusion. The Brits and the French found this out in 1940, the Israelis did in 1973 and the Iraqis in 1991. I don't doubt for a moment that if the Argies did attempt another dust-up over the Falklands, and that is a big ''IF'' I don't doubt the Brits would challenge it. What I do doubt is their ability to do what they did thirty years ago. If they do carry the day then I'd have been proven wrong, wouldn't I? And if it were the Argies who carry the day this time I'd be proven right, wouldn't I? In reality though I don't think either country wants to go to war again over the Falkland Islands. "Our'' result? You're English and a Vietnam vet?
27 posted on 06/21/2012 8:20:02 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

“A political defeat bought on by a defeatist elements here in America. Johnson’s insistence on micromanaging every aspect of the war, always afraid as he put it of ‘’ a bomb going down the smokestack of a Russian freighter’’ in my opinion needlessly drew out the war.I’ve often wondered why one Democratic administration was able to prevail in one Asian war, Korea and not another. When Nixon resumed the bombing it bought the North Vietnamese back to the table. And yes, the North Vietnamese took over the country.”

Yes, we have a similar set of excuses why we lost the revolutionary war with our American colonies but it doesn’t change the result. ;)

“The Brits and the French found this out in 1940”

We Brits also single-handedly defeated the luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain in 1940, destroying any posibility of operation sea lion being launched.

“What I do doubt is their ability to do what they did thirty years ago.”

The whole point is, we wouldn’t have to do what we had to do thirty years ago. In 1982 we had 50 soldiers on the islands and nothing else. Now we have a large garrison, the FIDF, permanent and extensive anti-aircraft defences, Typhoons based on the Island, a brand new Type-45 Detroyer (the most adavnced in the world) permanently on guard, an Astute class hunter-killer sub (the most advanced in the world) permanently on guard with Tomahawks and a Vanguard class Trident sub on permanent guard. Now go and look at what Argentina has got - significantly less than they had in 1982. In light of all this your conclusion is bizarre, especially when you factor in that now there are hundreds of millions of barrels of oil there and a successful clash with the Argentinians would ensure the re-election of Cameron in 2015.

“Our’’ result? You’re English and a Vietnam vet?”

No, read it again. I said I prefered our result in the Falklands to your result in Vietnam.


28 posted on 06/22/2012 4:06:41 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: jmacusa
"I've often wondered why one Democratic administration was able to prevail in one Asian war, Korea and not another."

Prevail? In Korea? I think the word is "stalemate."

29 posted on 06/22/2012 4:21:34 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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