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It's not lying. In Islam, that's "Witty Reparte'"
1 posted on 06/19/2012 9:44:41 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 06/19/2012 9:46:35 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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“Dreams From My Father” is a well-written memoir, IMO. It reveals much about Obama that, in retrospect, he would have been wise to keep hidden.

We typically allow writers and artists to “invent” themselves. But such people usually make terrible politicians - Vaclav Havel excepted. Adolph Hitler and Saddam Hussein (wrote several novels) are more typical.


3 posted on 06/19/2012 9:51:47 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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Bet if I had the time and resources, I could find triple that number, conservatively. First of, Obama’s lying is pathological, and 38 lies in a shortish bio is not in his league. [He could tell 38 lies in a 5,000 word essay.]

Secondly, Ayers wrote the thing, and there is evidence Obama didn't even proof it. Ayers doesn't care if something is true or not, only if it “feels honest”.

4 posted on 06/19/2012 9:53:20 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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I dug up an old story that most people have forgotten. This story should have been a huge warning to voters and the media regarding 0'Zero and his campaign.

Obama staffer gave warning of NAFTA rhetoric

5 posted on 06/19/2012 9:54:26 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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But it is important to say that it falls into the realm of literature and memoir, not history and autobiography, and should not be read as a rigorously factual account.

Actually, Mr. Maraniss, an esteemed journalist and author such as yourself would know that a memoir is actually supposed to be autobiographical and, oh yes, true. (See definitions below from Dictionary.com.) Literature, such as a novel, is where we expect and allow the imagination to run wild. By conflating "literature" and "memoir" into one realm, Maraniss is condoning the lies and exaggerations in the Obamography by granting them some sort of literary license. That technique is right out of the Dan Rather "Fake but Accurate" playbook. It didn't work for Rather either.

Definition of memoir:
1.a record of events written by a person having intimate knowledge of them and based on personal observation.
2. Usually, memoirs.
a. an account of one's personal life and experiences; autobiography.
b. the published record of the proceedings of a group or organization, as of a learned society.
3. a biography or biographical sketch.

6 posted on 06/19/2012 10:25:22 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Bill Clinton & Cory Booker committed the democrat gaffe. They accidentally told the truth.)
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To: Nachum

It’s called fiction literature!


7 posted on 06/19/2012 10:57:03 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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Mr. Maraniss, I downplay the lies also.
If the essence of a man is that he is a liar, then we should expect lies in his autobiography. I'd feel cheated otherwise.
The Sun rises in the East, and Liars lie.
12 posted on 06/19/2012 11:56:22 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Yeah, lying is no big deal to liberals if you’re a liberal too. Wonder if he’d be so gracious to cut that amount of slack to a Republican president. Doubtful.


13 posted on 06/19/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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No it’s liberal hypocrisy. They give their own a pass on stuff they’d crucify their enemies on.

Consider Elizabeth Warren. Her lies are really just a colorful family history story.


14 posted on 06/19/2012 11:58:43 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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