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This is yet another wrong-house no-knock raid situation.

Haven't read the opinion yet (I'm listening to the oral argument right now), but for those with some familiarity with the legal issues here, what's curious is that the plaintiff didn't file a Bivens action, but old-fashioned common-law claims for assault & battery (and intentional infliction of emotional distress).

1 posted on 06/18/2012 4:14:55 PM PDT by BCrago66
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I am thankful the court held the illegal home raiders guilty. I am not happy that the finding was due to their abuse of children and not the abuse of the parents in being so incompetent that they raided the wrong home and victimized innocent people.

We need a law on protecting innocents from wrongful raids. If the price is high enough, they will make sure they have the right address before terrorizing Americans. This is carelessness and unprofessionalism and there is no cost in it to the raiding agencies.


44 posted on 06/18/2012 5:53:40 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Thomas Avina met the agents in his living room and told them they were making a mistake. Shouting “Don’t you *ucking move,” the agents forced Thomas Avina to the floor at gunpoint, and handcuffed him and his wife, who had been lying on a couch in the living room.

U.S. District Court Magistrate Craig M. Kellison ... cited a Supreme Court precedent acknowledging that the “freedom of individuals verbally to oppose or challenge police action without thereby risking arrest is one of the principal characteristics by which we distinguish a free nation from a police state.”...

Guess we know what we're living in...

59 posted on 06/18/2012 6:50:36 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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I had this happen to a neighbor of mine. It was a middle-aged couple from Alabama. They bought the house next door to us that had been vacant for 3 years.

The people who owned it previously were definitely BAD people. They had been a blight to everyone in the neighborhood and basically terrorized the entire block to do anything to stop them because they did retalliate - not directly, but to your property (tires ice-picked, garbage in your yard, on your roof, eggs on your car and house) - stuff you could never prove.

Anyway, the BAD family were using their 5 year old kid to sneak into peoples homes and steal stuff. They finally got caught but they all beat town and were never seen again. Several family members and extended family members had lived in the house and no doubt drug dealing was probably going on.

Back to the couple from Alabama. As I mentioned the house was left vacant three years. HUD had the place remodeled - they had to completely tear everything out of the house, carpet, dry wall, all appliances - bathrooms - tile - everything. It looked pretty nice after the remodel and then this couple, with a 15 yr old daughter, from Alabama bought the place.

We got to meet them and found them to be very nice and great neighbors. After they had been in the house for a few months, in the middle of the night, cops by the truck full, SWAT, etc. broke down the door with guns drawn. They dragged this couple out of bed, as well as their daughter out of her bed, to the floor, guns to their heads, handcuffed, the works.

After several minutes the cops finally realized this was not the people they were after - it was someone from the BAD family that they wanted - who had left the place over three years ago. The easiest indicator that they had the wrong couple was that the people the cops were after were black - this couple from Alabama was white. Kind of difficult to miss even at night with thirty flashlights on you.

After they realized their mistake the “police” left - no apologies - no offer to fix the damage. This poor shaken couple unfortunately did not pursue legal action. I guess they didn’t want any trouble since they had just moved in, I don’t know. Anyway, how could that happen??

Don’t these guys recon these places before busting in the door, don’t they watch the place? I mean they must have spent thousands on that raid - how in God’s Name would they have not made absolutely sure they had the right people. They had the right place - three years too late - and totally wrong people!!


61 posted on 06/18/2012 6:53:48 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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I wonder if this is one reason the State of Indiana just passed a law that made it legal to defend yourself against unlawful incursions by law enforcement with lethal force?
63 posted on 06/18/2012 7:23:59 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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“The agents entered the 14-year-old girl’s room first, shouting “Get down on the fucking ground.” The girl, who was lying on her bed, rolled onto the floor, where the agents handcuffed her. Next they went to the 11-year-old’s room. The girl was sleeping. Agents woke her up by shouting “Get down on the fucking ground.” The girl’s eyes shot open, but she was, according to her own testimony, “frozen in fear.” So the agents dragged her onto the floor. While one agent handcuffed her, another held a gun to her head.

Moments later the two daughters were carried into the living room and placed next to their parents on the floor while DEA agents ransacked their home. After 30 minutes, the agents removed the children’s handcuffs. After two hours, the agents realized they had the wrong house—the product of a sloppy license plate transcription—and left

Administrative Punishment; TEN LASHES

Then they are fired.

No pay, no benefits, no retirement, no rehire, no nothing.

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64 posted on 06/18/2012 7:46:55 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Ninth Circuit to DEA: Putting a Gun to an 11-Year-Old's Head Is Not OK

Extra! Extra! Blind squirrel finds nut!

67 posted on 06/18/2012 8:17:40 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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How nice of the DEA to condition young girls to become easy prey for criminals.

What’s next? Will the want ad literally read:

Wanted: Men who are willing to scream obscenities at and bind young girls after ordering them from their beds. — The DEA


73 posted on 06/18/2012 10:51:44 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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FR has gotten a lot better. This thread has been serious. Not a bunch of yahoos who blame it all on Obama or illegal immigrants. And the bootlickers are afraid to post.

Maybe that's ominous. The fact that even FReepers recognize what a tyranny we've become. There was a time when this thread wouldn't have been popular at all.

92 posted on 06/19/2012 10:35:37 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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Ninth Circuit to DEA: Putting a Gun to an 11-Year-Old's Head Is Not OK

Looks like Steve Kinney got out of the DEA just a little too soon....

97 posted on 06/19/2012 12:56:09 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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