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Joe Soucheray: We lost more than spelling when we lost the classifieds
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 6/8/12 | Joe Soucheray

Posted on 06/18/2012 6:37:22 AM PDT by rhema

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1 posted on 06/18/2012 6:37:27 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

Face facts, Joe.
newspapers are nearly as dead as weekly news magazines.


2 posted on 06/18/2012 6:45:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rhema

The mayor is right of course.


3 posted on 06/18/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by Straight8
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The dead tree media is (thankfully) as dead as the trees. Now if we can just get them to stop making noise.


4 posted on 06/18/2012 6:48:06 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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You stumble across some interesting stuff in the classified. This one is kind neat and makes you wonder where this door was hiding for all those years.

I have a Chevy Suburban Right Rear CARGO door for sale that is NEW IN THE BOX! This Rear door will fit the 1978 Suburban Series and any applicable years for that model . I'm asking $650 OBO for this door. I'm also willing to trade for a quality firearm or a good running Chevy 283, 327, or 350 motor.
5 posted on 06/18/2012 6:53:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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All you have to do is watch the Tonight Show “Headlines” to see the quality of spell checking on classifieds in the paper. Not any better than on Craigslist, etc.

So many errors are the result of a Spellchecker automatically changing a word that is misspelled to somehting totally different and the writer failing to catch it. Even happens in Kindle books. Was reading one lately where the word budget was changed throughout the book to “ bud get”.


6 posted on 06/18/2012 6:57:41 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: cripplecreek

When we printed an obituary with the paper, it was riddled with spelling mistakes.

This is after we sent them a typed obit (that I did myself), that was free of them.

I had to go down and fight them to give us a 50 percent discount and to fix the obit because it was extremely amateur, embarrassing and offensive.

Maybe 20 years ago Newspapers were worthwhile. Now? No.


7 posted on 06/18/2012 7:00:47 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: rstrahan

I saw a mobile home for sale that had an outdoor “Spicket”.

I wanted to call and ask if they’d be willing to sell it to a gringo.


8 posted on 06/18/2012 7:01:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The last time I looked into placing a Classified Ad the cheapest rate I could find was north of $250.

Craiglist may be full of predators and whores, but you ain’t gonna beat the price!


9 posted on 06/18/2012 7:05:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rhema; Eric in the Ozarks; Straight8; muir_redwoods; cripplecreek; rstrahan; Lazamataz
Not so with the newspaper classifieds, which offer the ambience of a gentleman's club by comparison, with newspapers folded on those bamboo newspaper racks and a butler in a waistcoat bringing around samples of single-malt scotch to give a try.

Boy, this guy's indeed out of touch.

"Gentlemen's Club" now means cocktail waitress in tights, longnecks and rotgut bourbon shots in sticky glasses and the smell of stripper patchouli. (So Laz tells me.)

10 posted on 06/18/2012 7:05:33 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: JCBreckenridge

My local paper printed that I had been arraigned for drunk driving nearly 7 yeas after it happened.

I didn’t know about it till my boss walked out on the shop floor and asked if I was going to need time off to deal with it.


11 posted on 06/18/2012 7:07:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: sam_paine

Don’t forget the green-skinned alien chick.


12 posted on 06/18/2012 7:08:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: sam_paine

And remember how it was when only the “right people” had control of the airwaves and printing presses...


13 posted on 06/18/2012 7:09:03 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s a chunk of change, f’sure...


14 posted on 06/18/2012 7:17:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rhema
decline in spelling and grammar

Most newspaper classifieds are filled with abbreviations and have no grammar because each word costs more money. It was the original text messaging language and is painful to read.

15 posted on 06/18/2012 7:20:09 AM PDT by Reeses
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The writer mocks Craigslist’s standard of English (and it is dreadful) but I recall many auto classifieds in years past with ‘RUNS GOOD’ as the hook. Newsprint isn’t a guarantee of Shakespeare-caliber copy.

As with all ivory-tower liberals, the writer either ignores or resents the economic aspect of the Craigslist phenomenon. Nowhere in the piece do the words ‘cost,’ ‘expense,’ or ‘price’ appear. How many thousands, even millions, of times did papers abuse their monopoly by charging exorbitant rates for classifieds? Have they ever considered that the rise of Craigslist was a direct reaction to being gouged?

Admittedly, the writer is relying on anecdotal evidence but he is also ignoring the very empirical evidence of circulation. Readers have abandoned classifieds because they have abandoned the newspaper for ideological reasons.


16 posted on 06/18/2012 7:33:08 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Both Twin Cities dailies keep plodding along with weekday print circulation between 130,000 and 240,000.. I usually pick up the SPPP (although I quite often check online to see which paper has at least one conservative op-ed piece before I decide which one I'll buy).

The only news magazine I subscribe to is the Weekly Standard, which has a circulation of roughly 100,000.

17 posted on 06/18/2012 7:36:02 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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I miss listening to Joe after Rush’s show was over on KSTP.
I catch him on line from timne to time...


18 posted on 06/18/2012 7:40:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rhema

Doctors don’t make housecalls, milkmen no longer make daily home deliveries, but some news accounts that are 16-48 hours old are delivered every morning to the public’s doorstep, sometimes even if they don’t want it.

Newspapers will have “free trial” weeks so they can boost their circulation figures and demand higher ad rates.

The post office wants to drop out of delivering mail 6 days a week (I suggest that they use ALTERNATING days rather than ending Saturday delivery, but that’s another discussion).

The post office wanted to assign everyone an email address and then charge old folks $0.25 an email to print them out and hand deliver them if you didn’t have a computer. Why not? Mostly the post office is delivering paid spam anyway. If they cut out the mailbox stuffing of grocery store coupons, their job would be accomplished in less than half the time.


19 posted on 06/18/2012 7:49:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: relictele
The writer mocks Craigslist’s standard of English (and it is dreadful) but I recall many auto classifieds in years past with ‘RUNS GOOD’ as the hook. Newsprint isn’t a guarantee of Shakespeare-caliber copy.

Well, at least the print ads got the verb tense and subject-verb agreement right. Joe's Craigslist example ("run good when last run") showed a seller oblivious to the past tense of the irregular verb.

Newspaper print circulation figures show the NY Times as the only paper whose daily digital circulation exceeds the print circulation.

20 posted on 06/18/2012 7:50:21 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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