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Gunowner, not shooter, may be liable
concordmonitor.com ^ | 18 June, 2012 | Maddie Hanna

Posted on 06/18/2012 4:24:09 AM PDT by marktwain

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The idea that you are liable for the acts of someone who steals your property, is insane. I doubt that this will fly, as it has already been shot down by two other courts.

There must be some seriously anti-gun money involved in this case.

1 posted on 06/18/2012 4:24:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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whether gun owners have a duty to store firearms in a safe manner in New Hampshire...


What’s next? The storage of kitchen knives?

Has anyone taken notice that all of these attempts at gun control are from the “left coast” or somewhere in the northeast?

Is there something in the water of freedom there?


2 posted on 06/18/2012 4:29:17 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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Can the same logic be used to hold the Fed Gov and Sanctuary Cities liable for murders and crimes against US citizens by illegal immigrants. After all the US gov and Sanctuary Cities refuse to enforce immigration laws allowing murders and criminals to slip in from Mexico to US.


3 posted on 06/18/2012 4:34:00 AM PDT by Fee
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So much for “Live Free or Die”.
New Hampshire appears to be becoming just another soviet state seeking to remove second amendment rights.
Charging someone because property stolen from them was used to commit a felony is just wrong in so many ways.


4 posted on 06/18/2012 4:36:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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Yes it’s insane but we live in a country run by idiots who have no common sense.


5 posted on 06/18/2012 4:37:11 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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I have never understood how your doctor can ask you if you own a gun?


6 posted on 06/18/2012 4:38:01 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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if they decide that he is guilty, can we prosecute judges that release people that then go and harm others?


7 posted on 06/18/2012 4:46:17 AM PDT by class8601_nuke (don't just be critical, be prompt critical.)
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These fools prefer “secure and useless” to “ready to defend”.

The only “secure” obligation is to keep them from the hands young children.


8 posted on 06/18/2012 4:48:23 AM PDT by G Larry
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So much for “Live Free or Die”.

The New Hampshire Supreme Court shot down this case, so do not blame New Hampshire.

The lawsuit is coming from Boston Massachusetts.

9 posted on 06/18/2012 4:49:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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"I have never understood how your doctor can ask you if you own a gun?"

My answer to that question is "NOYFB" That usually shuts them up.


10 posted on 06/18/2012 4:50:16 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; one box left.)
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I have never understood how your doctor can ask you if you own a gun?

I have never been asked by any of the doctors I visit with frequently or the pediatricians my kids visit if we owned firearms and I live in NY.

about a year ago, I told my GP I got a tick up hunting(I thought I might have lymes.) his eyes perked up and he asked my all kinds of questions and started talking about the guns he owned ....he does not like public ranges so I am going to take him to my club's private range...

11 posted on 06/18/2012 4:54:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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"So much for “Live Free or Die”."

This case is being heard in a FEDERAL court, NOT a state court.


12 posted on 06/18/2012 4:55:05 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; one box left.)
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I have never understood how your doctor can ask you if you own a gun?

Because he wants to go shooting with you? My kid works in a hospital. Several of the surgeons were discussing their household firearms trying to see if they could get a rise out of her, having no idea where she stood on the issue. She stated that you couldn't beat the AK-47 for reliability, but the muzzle climb on full auto made her prefer the M-16, but she really liked MP5K for home defense. The subject was dropped.

13 posted on 06/18/2012 4:55:13 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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He can ASK all he wants.You’re under no obligation to answer.


14 posted on 06/18/2012 4:56:33 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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He can ASK all he wants.You’re under no obligation to answer.


15 posted on 06/18/2012 4:56:44 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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Just because there is a court case about something does not mean that New Hampshire is becoming anti 2nd amendment. NH is one of the best states in the union when it comes to the 2nd amendment and I have little doubt this case is going to get very far, despite the state supreme court being stacked by lefty governor Lynch.


16 posted on 06/18/2012 5:00:30 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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In Secord's case, "the facts here were even more egregious," since the gun wasn't in a container or safe, Tepichin said.

What, a locked home/cabin just isn't enough?

Charge the shooter with B&E, Burglary, Felony theft, too!

The owner (also a victim) should not be held liable.

If you lock your car, but someone manages to steal it anyway and run someone over, are you liable for that, too?

17 posted on 06/18/2012 5:01:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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There is a logical argument for liability in circumstances of clear negligence, like leaving a loaded firearm on a bench at a playground.

In this case, the firearm was in his home. If his car had been stolen in the same manner and people killed with it, would he be liable? Of course not.


18 posted on 06/18/2012 5:04:13 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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The idea that you are liable for the acts of someone who steals your property, is insane.

Insane to you or me. Some anti-gunners think like this. Some are cynical seizing on anything no matter how irrelevant to try and restrict the rights of their fellow citizens, and others are just plain nuts.

Unfortunately there are no consequences for people who act this way. Gun owners are too law abiding to shoot them which kind of refutes the anti-guners arguments to start with. Of course they don't see it that way. Their hatred of freedom and the right to keep and bear arms isn't based on logic.

19 posted on 06/18/2012 5:04:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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So if he’d stolen a car and run down the victims...


20 posted on 06/18/2012 5:05:26 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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