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An endless stall (NY Says No to Fracking)
New York Post ^ | June 14, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 06/14/2012 7:28:11 AM PDT by C19fan

Will hydraulic fracturing ever come to New York? And if it does, will it be sufficiently commonplace to actually boost Upstate’s sadly dilapidated economy? These are fair questions — given that the Cuomo administration has slowed the approval process for the controversial natural-gas-extraction method to a crawl. And now comes word, via a careful leak to The New York Times, that Team Cuomo is pushing a plan that would severely limit both the number of drilling permits and their location to just a few counties. And even that assumes that the process itself is approved by the Department of Environmental Conservation — which is still a mighty big if.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: fracking; newyorkfracking
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To: C19fan

It’s time to prohibit the export of energy in any form to the Northeast. Let them produce their own and, if they import it from abroad, make them refine it in their own backyard.

Pennsylvania and New Jersey could do this by themselves by declaring that the environmental hazards of pipelines, power lines, and truck/train shipments of fossil fuels were too high to bear simply to accommodate states that refused to produce energy. Or you could draw the line through PA-DE, PA-MD, OH-WV-VA, etc. Lots of possible combinations. The point is, the northeast is a diseased appendix that could be easily quarantined.

Let ‘em freeze in the dark.


21 posted on 06/14/2012 8:45:22 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: C19fan

What was that line??? Something about illegitimately-conceived progeny should hasten their demise by hypothermia without the benefit of artificial light??? It was a really snappy comeback to situations such as this back in the 80s...

;-)


22 posted on 06/14/2012 8:46:52 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: bill1952
Every time you say "BS" you are undertaking a personal attack on me. Cut it out. I'm just giving you the bad news ~ most of the land involved is already owned by the government of New York City for the purpose of providing water to the taxpayers and industries of New York City.

They'll be the ones to ultimately decide if they want to also pump gas, and when they do I'm going to go after it myself in the exercise of my own property rights.

Why do you want to get in my way?

23 posted on 06/14/2012 8:53:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cherry

Upstate NY is beautiful but dying.......they have taxed the industry right out of the state, I swear if they could figure out a way to tax every breath one takes, they would do it


24 posted on 06/14/2012 8:59:24 AM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: C19fan

When will the New Yorkers realize that they have been sold down the toilet by communists Democrats?


25 posted on 06/14/2012 9:04:11 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: muawiyah

So in NY state, water for the city of NY takes precedence over local needs, but in AZ, the city of Tombstone is forbidden from maintaining waterways and reservoirs which supply the city because those waterways pass through federal land.

Interesting.

NY has so much natural gas that it is not uncommon for farmers in the Northern part of the state to pump their own gas to run their farms. I met a woman at a conference who told me about this. She was a music teacher at a local community college and lived on a farm.

NY would do much better to reassure people that the state oversight of drilling and fracking practices would be thorough and protective of drinking water, with regulations that would include the drilling companies paying for all damages to water systems.


26 posted on 06/14/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Norm Lenhart

A pox upon the whole of New Yawk State. Having graduated from high school upstate, and having attended a secondary school in the Big Sh*tty, IMHO, the state is as treasonous now as it was when the Tory’s were a major faction during the Revlutionary War.

Let their beloved gubbament feed and cloth them. Then they will get what their imported Senator thinks the proles should get.

Those fools imported and elected the HillaBeast, thus earning all their misery.


27 posted on 06/14/2012 9:10:51 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: muawiyah

“Alternatives are limited. You got an idea about how to do it, tell it to them.”

In response to your request for input:
1. Declare NYC to be critical habitat.
2. Import bear, puma, and wolves to ‘recreate historic populations”.
3. Allow only conservatives to determine the carrying capacity of the new habitat.
4. Diligently disarm all the prey organisms (previously known as Urban Ferals and over taxed Libtards) to assure no loss of precious Predators during feeding or the certain to occur ‘killing frenzies’.
5. Wait until the predator population has increased to the point of becoming a ‘predator pit’, then sell safari permits to cull the excess predators.


28 posted on 06/14/2012 9:17:48 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Logical me

“When will the New Yorkers realize that they have been sold down the toilet by communists Democrats?”

Never happen.

To their end, the leftist liberal “cidiots” and downstaters will go their last breaths blaming the “Republicans”, the “evil capitalists”, the “greedy corporations”, and Bush.

They are true believers, and will never change.


29 posted on 06/14/2012 10:05:42 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: C19fan

in a few years the NY-PA state line is going to resemble the DMZ in Korea...


30 posted on 06/14/2012 10:08:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

Agreed!


31 posted on 06/14/2012 10:16:59 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, everybody knew New York would be the hardest sell for any of this because of the political problems.

Illinois is not far behind. According to an editorial in the June 3 Champaign News Gazette our speaker of the house Madigan threw a monkey wrench in southern Illinois fracking by "calling for a two year moratorium on horizontal hydraulic fracturing and for the creation of a 13 member task force that would gather information and make recommendations about regulating fracking in Illinois."

32 posted on 06/14/2012 10:36:54 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Western Phil
But what's her real motive ~ can't be fresh water ~ like they have Lake Michigan right there!

I suspect Mad-again is, as usual, simply mad and imagines being against fraking is highly popular ~ well, it is in her circles, but none of us know any of those people.

Who owns the mineral rights is probably own the minds of some legal beagle there and he'll get rich off any conflict.

33 posted on 06/14/2012 11:40:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: knarf

“...The state is awash in tax revenue because of the gas companies and drilling/fracking...”

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Something TOTALLY outside the grasp or admission of a radical, America-hating, “envirowhacko”-pandering socialist like Obama. A clear and present danger to America and its wants and needs.....an understatement.


34 posted on 06/14/2012 2:55:12 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: muawiyah

BS


35 posted on 06/14/2012 7:09:56 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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