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Posted on 06/13/2012 4:05:48 PM PDT by Third Person
“We revere our founding fathers”
Yes, but not all of them. For instance Madison, Jefferson, and Adams more than Hamilton. And even those I do revere more than others, not in every aspect. For instance not Adams for the alien and sedition acts, nor Jefferson for owning slaves and the non-intercourse act.
“We respect the office of the president.”
Not really, or what it has become. In broad strokes and as outlined in the Constitution, but not altogether since Lincoln at least.
“we take offense to assaulting a symbol of our great nation”
Firstly, Bush is not a symbot of the nation. He’s just a retired politician. More importantly, I might be offended by an assault on national symbols, but it depends on the situation. I am not all offended by Bush’s head appearing in Game of Thrones.
If you're into boycotting, that's your right. As long as it's a Big Picture thing, and not some silly, possibly imagined, slight.
“as a Brit at Dunkirk”
Not so much, as the Nazi war machine deliberately let them run away. I always wondered why they never got any credit for it. Probably because at that point it was already decided that Germany’d be firebombed to hell, and no soft feelings could get in the way.
If only. I'm afraid the SS has been corrupted and is now... well... the SS.
While we have that son-of-a-bitch in the White House, it's absolutely pointless. But you wear yourself out and have at it. Meanwhile, we'll probably luck out and trade one SOB for another this November.
Thanks for the advice.... I’ll try to temper my efforts, so as not to wear myself out.
I heard Ted interviewed about it and he said that they could not have been nicer... unofficially apologized for having to talk to him... told him the CBC should be investigated and not Ted on their behalf. Ted has worked with some of these agents and he says that they are good people. Those that are closest to the evil in the White House... those are the ones to watch... and the higher up political appointees. There be commies in them thar waters!
LLS
National Geographic Presents... LOL!
'It's not a choice. It's not a political statement,' one says. 'It's just.. we had to use what heads we had lying around.'
And all you saps giving them a pass, just ask yourself what the reaction would be if this was Obama or Clinton. They would NEVER get away with it or even attempt it in the first place.
The people who created the show admitted they used a prop of Bush’s head, that point isn’t even in dispute.
I guess you guys missed the part where the show’s creators admit that they put a facsimile of his head in there as a prop.
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in before Zot!!!! /s
In the early Pacific evening, the following statement went out from Benioff and Weiss:
We use a lot of prosthetic body parts on the show: heads, arms, etc. We can’t afford to have these all made from scratch, especially in scenes where we need a lot of them, so we rent them in bulk. After the scene was already shot, someone pointed out that one of the heads looked like George W. Bush.
In the DVD commentary, we mentioned this, though we should not have. We meant no disrespect to the former President and apologize if anything we said or did suggested otherwise.
And from HBO, in the same release:
We were deeply dismayed to see this and find it unacceptable, disrespectful and in very bad taste. We made this clear to the executive producers of the series who apologized immediately for this inadvertent careless mistake. We are sorry this happened and will have it removed from any future DVD production.
http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/HBO_Producers_Respond_to_Controversy/
The DVD also mentioned that the author of the books withdrew his own request to have his cameo as one of the heads on the wall after he found out how much it would cost.
The reason that the Germans failed to stop the British leaving Dunkirk (from a land perspective) is that the British has just counterattacked and badly mauled Rommel’s 7th Panzer Division at Arras. Add to this fierce British resistance at several other ports and towns.
The Nazis did not want to have to enter Dunkirk and take the town street by street, house by house. As we would have inflicted serious losses on them.
It is a myth that the British ‘fled’ like Usain Bolt on a good day to Dunkirk. The British put up legendary stands at Boulogne, Arras, St Valery, Calais. Inflicting heavy casualties and allowing many British and Allied soldiers to escape.
I am wrong on this point. Apparently there was a head of Bush in the prop room that was used. Big deal. It begs the question, though, “Who were the OTHER heads used?’ Could there have possibly been an Al Gore in there, or a Barney Frank?
Who knows where this may lead.
“just ask yourself what the reaction would be if this was Obama or Clinton. They would NEVER get away with it or even attempt it in the first place”
So we should whine over trivialities and waste everyone’s time just because they would?
You’re wrong. The British did not brilliantly escape through a series of dazzling rearguard actions. The panzers would’ve crushed them had not the Nazis deliberately let them go. They did this because the British were not their primary enemies. Rectifying the embarassing end to the previous war was the goal, and back then as in 1939-45 they simply couldn’t cross the channel. They remembered the starvation caused by the blockade 20 years earlier, and also wanted to keep the Americans from again bailing out their Anglo-Saxon brethren.
I offer as further evidence the fact that the Nazis didn’t start the famed Battle of Britain until after Churchill bombed them.
“It is a myth that the British ‘fled’ like Usain Bolt on a good day to Dunkirk”
Three good days, actually, during which Hitler sat idly by. How do you explain that, other than that they let them go? Oh, I see, they feared heavy casualties. This from the army that had conquered in a month and a half what two previous wars couldn’t accomplish. I’ve also heard that they stopped the tanks because Goering wanted a chance to prove himself. But Nazi reliance on the luftwaffe has been vastly overrated, I assume to make the Battle of Britain more romantic and to excuse Britain and America’s barbaric air campaigns.
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