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To: Tublecane

Men who won’t serve without a draft, are men who don’t want to serve their nation in uniform.

Romney now wails about serving he “longed” to serve, now.

Here is Romney complaining that he would have liked the easy way out, of being able to be in Vietnam, or at least the war time military, “There were surely times on my mission when I was having a particularly difficult time accomplishing very little when I would have longed for the chance to be serving in the military, but that was not to be.”

Since 9/11 (I assume that is what you meant) happened when you were 19 and you refused to enlist, it explains your posts, I suspicioned some form of deep guilt in them, it will only get worst for you as the years go by.

If I were you I would go immediately to a recruiter to see about the Guard or reserves, or active duty if you can afford the career interruption.


35 posted on 06/13/2012 6:26:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

If Romney’s been saying such things then he’s wailing as you say and shouldn’t be listened to. I don’t know whether they’re in response to criticism about his deferments they’re at least understandable from a political perspective. But they are in poor taste.


36 posted on 06/13/2012 6:31:32 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: ansel12

“Men who won’t serve without a draft, are men who don’t want to serve their nation in uniform”

That’s right; I don’t. I assume I would want to in the case of genuine national security, e.g. if we were invaded. But that’s not been the case since 1812 at least.

“I suspicioned some form of deep guilt in them”

If I am guilty that’s some armchair psychoanalysis on your part. But I don’t think so.

If I can do a bit of my own anaylsis, from your association of manhood with service and your contempt for Romney’s family tradition of non-service I suspect you come from a military family. Just know that not all American families are like that. For instance my father was drafted into the army during Vietnam, though he didn’t see combat. I distinctly remember him telling me that’s not something he ever wanted for his sons, though he is no lib and doesn’t badmouth the military in general.

“If I were you I would go immediately to a recruiter to see about the Guard or reserves, or active duty if you can afford the career interruption.”

See, this is what I mean by us not being Sparta or Prussia. Why this notion that everyone who can should serve? Is it that I’m an ingrate, and that if I’m willing to live under the unbrella of freedom I should help carry the handle myself? Well, there’s an awful lot of us who thinks it’s muggy under the umbrella, and we wouldn’t have to worry about getting wet if we didn’t rush out of the warmth into the rainstorm for no good reason.


37 posted on 06/13/2012 6:41:28 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: ansel12

“I distinctly remember him telling me that’s not something he ever wanted for his sons”

To be in the army, that is, not to be drafted.


39 posted on 06/13/2012 6:46:45 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: ansel12

“in the case of genuine national security”

National emergency, I mean, not security.


40 posted on 06/13/2012 6:51:02 PM PDT by Tublecane
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