[rogue yam]

I do believe in kindness toward illegal immigrants who are not violent or destructive, who are simply seeking a better life. As Hannity always points out, who can blame them for seeing that this is a better country.

"Kindness" with your own resources is charity. "Kindness" with resources that have been taken by force from others is tyranny and corruption.

Is allowing someone to live off our social services “collectivism”? At one level, social services themselves are collectivist, so there is the necessity to admit that this nation already has a collectivist streak. I think for ill, because I believe it destroys individual initiative and weakens the nation.

There is collectivism woven all through our government at every level, and this is precisely what has us hurtling toward the cliff of fiscal collapse. I think that we will only be able to save ourselves from tyranny and impoverishment if we turn away from collectivism and seek to reduce or eliminate it everywhere. This is a project that necessarily will never end.

[xzins]

"Kindness" with your own resources is charity. "Kindness" with resources that have been taken by force from others is tyranny and corruption.

I agree with the first sentence. The 2nd is not necessarily the case.

Using police or military resources is still using a nation's resources. There is no requirement that the police or military be brutal with illegals who are captured. There is every reason to be kind and considerate as they are repatriated to their own countries.

Just for the record, though, I'd buy into an even swap one-to-one for a hard-working illegal who wants to make it on his own versus an American citizen deadbeat who can but won't work and lives on the government dole.

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