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To: TwelveOfTwenty
I noticed your tag line before I posted you. But your comment was pretty open-ended. And I've learned from experience to never assume “too much” of someone when reading posts on a political thread.

In a contest between Obama any one of those three you've addressed, who is your choice? Are you saying you prefer Obama to Palin, Cain, or Bachmann?

If your “point” is that Romney is an imperfect candidate, please tell us who the “perfect” candidate would be. If your simply here to disparage anyone but an imperfect candidate I wonder if you would have disparaged Reagan. I don't think we've had a better president in the past century. But there are areas of policy where I think Reagan was horribly wrong. So even he wasn't “perfect” in the eyes of many conservatives (I'll assume you believe you're conservative for the moment).

Obviously, your “perfect” candidate is either someone who got his/her butt kicked in the primaries, or someone who didn't throw their hat into the ring at all. If he/she got beat out in the primaries by someone you seem to consider to be not particularly strong, that invites questions about the strength of the person you prefer. If you're “perfect” man/woman didn't even try to run, I wonder if trashing the best of our two imperfect choices is smart, from a pragmatic point of view.

As many of us see the country headed in what we believe to be a completely destructive direction, a logical thinker should have no trouble seeing that even a candidate who we agree with on 80% of the issues is a far better choice than is Obama. So this American “ship” we see heading off the wrong direction needs to be turned back in the right direction. Yet you disparage a person who we can hope will turn that ship back within 20 degrees of it's correct heading because he's not “perfect,” and in doing so condemn ourselves to go in a direction we know to be 100 percent wrong?

Romney isn't my “perfect” pick, either. But I'm mature enough to realize that I have two choices to support with my vote in November. I pick the one who I believe will turn the country back in a direction I consider to be far closer to the right direction, knowing Obama is guaranteed to take us in the worst possible direction.

I don't see the positive impact of tearing down the best of the two choices we have, unless your interest is to see four more years of the “progressive” march to tyranny.

31 posted on 06/11/2012 10:49:31 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: RavenATB

Should have read, “disparage anyone but a perfect candidate...”


32 posted on 06/11/2012 11:05:01 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: RavenATB
I noticed your tag line before I posted you. But your comment was pretty open-ended. And I've learned from experience to never assume “too much” of someone when reading posts on a political thread.

Fair 'nuf.

In a contest between Obama any one of those three you've addressed, who is your choice?

I would choose any of the three, but it's moot since I won't have that choice, unless one gets chosen as Romney's running mate.

Are you saying you prefer Obama to Palin, Cain, or Bachmann?

No. I thought it was clear, and it was certainly more clear than that. I saw them as our best choices at the beginning of the primaries, and thought this would be a great year. Then, Palin didn't run, Cain either couldn't control himself or backed down over false charges, and Bachmann gaffed herself out of contention.

If your “point” is that Romney is an imperfect candidate, please tell us who the “perfect” candidate would be.

There is no perfect candidate, but he was the last of my choices.

If your simply here to disparage anyone but an imperfect candidate I wonder if you would have disparaged Reagan. I don't think we've had a better president in the past century. But there are areas of policy where I think Reagan was horribly wrong. So even he wasn't “perfect” in the eyes of many conservatives (I'll assume you believe you're conservative for the moment).

There is a big difference between Reagan and Romney. I agreed with Reagan on the fundamentals. I can't say the same for Romney, because I'm not even sure what his fundamental beliefs are.

Obviously, your “perfect” candidate is either someone who got his/her butt kicked in the primaries, or someone who didn't throw their hat into the ring at all.

You think I don't know that? That doesn't mean I have to fall in line behind Romney, when there is still five months until the general elections.

If he/she got beat out in the primaries by someone you seem to consider to be not particularly strong, that invites questions about the strength of the person you prefer.

I never said Romney wasn't a strong candidate. Hillary and Obama were strong candidates in 2008. That doesn't mean I agree with them on the issues. I thought Bachmann was the strongest candidate based on the issues, but her gaffes nullified that (and fast).

If you're “perfect” man/woman didn't even try to run, I wonder if trashing the best of our two imperfect choices is smart, from a pragmatic point of view.

What you call trashing I call vetting. Hoping that if we don't vet him the MSM won't either isn't very smart.

As many of us see the country headed in what we believe to be a completely destructive direction, a logical thinker should have no trouble seeing that even a candidate who we agree with on 80% of the issues is a far better choice than is Obama.

You agree with Romney 80% of the time? I suspect it's more like 50%.

Besides, if I did agree with Romney on 80% of the issues, I'd probably be able to look past the other 20%.

Romney isn't my “perfect” pick, either. But I'm mature enough to realize that I have two choices to support with my vote in November. I pick the one who I believe will turn the country back in a direction I consider to be far closer to the right direction, knowing Obama is guaranteed to take us in the worst possible direction.

"In November" is the key. If, in November, it's apparent that the only outcome will be Romney or Obama, I'll vote for R... Rom... Romn... uh ABO. Hopefully, he'll chose a running mate that will make it eaier to do, but if not we can still turn from the trainwreck we're heading into now and hope for a real Conservative in 2016.

I don't see the positive impact of tearing down the best of the two choices we have, unless your interest is to see four more years of the “progressive” march to tyranny.

If you think we're tearing him down now, wait until you see what the MSM does after his nomination is official. "White and delightsome", 24/7. If the MSM gets its way, many will be embarrassed to vote for him.

Besides, "tearing down" Romney's record won't change the only reason many will vote for him, which is that he isn't Obama.

33 posted on 06/12/2012 5:51:20 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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