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1 posted on 06/09/2012 6:01:06 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

more taxes = more police = more of a police state


2 posted on 06/09/2012 6:13:34 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: neverdem

I hope everyone realizes that in a few year drones will be the size of bumblebees and cheap enough for our rulers to track all of us 24/7.

If the courts do not slap this down now it’s going to be tough to live free in a short time.

We can also see who our true freedom loving politicians are. Statist “drone” O’Donnell fails big time.


3 posted on 06/09/2012 6:13:51 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: neverdem

How can anyone doubt that we are living in a police state now and the bosses are government. Freedom is nearly gone.


5 posted on 06/09/2012 6:21:53 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: neverdem

On the other hand, law enforcement and the Obama administration made much the same argument last year, in a case about using GPS devices to monitor a suspect’s movements over an extended period of time. Supporters of GPS tracking contended that it was no different from putting a tail on somebody. The Justices rejected that argument 9-0.


This part of the article is intellectually dishonest. The Justices did not reject the use of GPS tracking. They rejected the use of it without first obtaining a search warrant from a court and I have no problem with that.

As I have stated on other threads today - technology is neither good nor bad. It is what we do with the technology that counts. If a drone can locate a missing hiker and save their life it is good. If a drone is used on the border to stop drug runners or illegals most people consider that good. If a drone is used to find violations by a farmer for a regulated activity most people think that is bad. If a drone is used to enforce the speed limit on the interstate most people would not like it.

The march of technology is not something that can be stopped and it has the capacity for good and evil depending on how it is used. The use of technology by government is decided by congress, the administration, and ultimately the final decision lies with our courts. This is why we must work tirelessly to have a government that respects freedom unlike the current regime that wants control. The technology for a despotic police state already exists. The desire to use technology like that is present in the current administration and many rats in congress. Luckily, the courts and GOP minority in government are strongly opposed. ABO so he does not get the swing votes on the court for stuff like this because these new technologies are currently decided by a court that is one vote away from implementing the full progressive agenda.

This was briefly discussed on a previous thread -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2892977/posts

The potential biblical prophecy ramifactions for those interested were mentioned on -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2893568/posts


6 posted on 06/09/2012 6:22:55 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids will pay for it!)
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To: neverdem
"[It] cuts down on manpower in the air, and also [is] more safe."

"Safe".

The magic word of the new millennium; anything to make us "safe". Safe in our chains.

8 posted on 06/09/2012 6:25:31 PM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: neverdem

Mission creep. What works well to put down dissent in the third world sh!tholes we currently occupy will work just as well work on our home turf. This is just a prelude of things to come for America.


9 posted on 06/09/2012 6:29:32 PM PDT by factoryrat (e are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: neverdem
"We’re not trying to vanquish enemy forces in Washington"

That's the problem!

13 posted on 06/09/2012 7:11:43 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: neverdem
"The gaining of power becomes, in a succession of small decisions, an end in itself --- always for the right reasons."

--- "The Fox", Sherwood Smith

People in authority (in power) are easily succumbed to its siren song. Even people on the 'right' side.

14 posted on 06/09/2012 7:23:38 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: neverdem

Did you think defense contractors were just going to disappear with the federal cuts? Go after the officials that approve budgets for LE if you don’t like this.


15 posted on 06/09/2012 7:41:04 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: neverdem

But see, this is the kind of thing that’s only bad when the Obama administration or some other leftist is doing it.

When it’s a “law and order” Republican like McDonnell, suddenly it becomes okay.

That’s how the two heads of the anti-liberty Party work. the Democrat head distracts people with class warfare, while the Republican head distracts them with the “need” for (their brand of) law and order.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 7:56:05 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: neverdem

The inevitable evolution of drones will be to fund themselves, personnel, facilities, and more drones. There will be increasing fees to pay for them, have a new shed on your property? An abandoned car? Do you mow often enough? is that spot that won’t grow anything on your property from toxic waste? Why is that car in your driveway licensed out-of-state? That Jet-ski in your back yard isn’t cross-referenced to your personal property taxes...your thermostat is set to high in the winter...your woodpile hasn’t been inspected for bark-moths...it never ends.

Localities and municipalities will craft new laws that are optimized for drone enforcement and their revenue enhancement.


20 posted on 06/09/2012 8:15:51 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: neverdem

Just adda rotor and tail prop dime ized

22 posted on 06/09/2012 8:54:32 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: neverdem

No. And unless SWAT is being used to actually raid known, hardened drug houses/gang hangouts, they need to be dismantled as well.


23 posted on 06/09/2012 8:59:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: neverdem

Hmmm...the engineer in me says that an RC “drone killer” may be a fun project.


27 posted on 06/09/2012 10:18:17 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: neverdem

We’re not trying to vanquish enemy forces in Washington......yes, they are.


28 posted on 06/09/2012 10:24:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: neverdem

I am all for giving the police all they need to catch criminals,but this is going way over the top.
The temptation for abusing these things is too much.
Have the cops get off thier fat union asses and do some patroling. The only use for these things is on the Mexican border.


29 posted on 06/10/2012 1:59:43 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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