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I don't think California will be as Easy a Win For 0bama as He Thinks

Posted on 06/08/2012 11:19:19 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer

I made an interesting observation here in Southern California a few minutes ago.

Background:

We are on vacation here after seeing my #3 son coming back from an overseas deployment in the Marines. FWIW, it was with the 1/4 on a MEU "booze Cruise" in the Western Pacific. I backed into a support pole in the underground garage at the hotel yesterday and made wuite a dent in the passenger door of the rental. I took it to a body shop here in San Clemente so I could get an idea of how much it's gonna cost me.

While waiting for the owner to get me an estimate I was looking at the various cars in the shop. I saw only ONE car with an 0bama sticker, and 5 with Romney or Republican/Libertarian stickers. While yacking with the owner we got to talking about government and he asked me where I was originally from. I told him Texas, and he then told me that if he could get out from under his mortgage here, he'd move his business to the DFW area and get out of here. Quite a few of the business owners here on the beach area have left because of the regulations and taxes. He detests 0bama, as do most business owners here.

I don't think California will be a complete shoo-in for 0bama this fall.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; california
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

“You’d also have to lop off LA County. Remember, LA is basically SF with Mexicans instead of queers.”

TRUE, but, I think we could still make it numerically if LA were still part of the state.

It’s all wishful thinking anyway!


61 posted on 06/08/2012 12:25:18 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

Yep. Outside of the major urban areas, the whole state is red. Same is true about a lot of blue states.
I have to wonder what it is about urban areas that turns people into liberals.


62 posted on 06/08/2012 12:25:36 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: nuke rocketeer
Well unfortunately you are in the more conservative part of the state. From Long Beach south on the water it is conservative, but unfortunately there is LA, San Fran., my home Santa Barbara that add up to a lot of votes even exceeding the large number of conservatives in the state. Also a lot of conservatives ran like hell from California in 2006ish. That trimmed the vote a bit as well.

Yet you are right in that California will not be the wide spread vote for Obama as the DNC would like. Dude is desperate. Let's hope and pray though that you are right.

63 posted on 06/08/2012 12:26:09 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: FeliciaCat

I remember back after Reagan got elected I was thumbing thru an Almanac and was looking at the results for Calif. As I remember (and it was long ago) I came up with “Orange County Cal had won the Calif election for Reagan.” My reasoning being that OC voters by a wide margin canceled out LA votes. Riverside and San Bernardino just put the icing on the cake for a Calif win. OK it was a long time ago — but that’s my memory of it. But Orange Co is not as conservative as it once was.


64 posted on 06/08/2012 12:27:17 PM PDT by bunster
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To: Little Ray

Urban areas are clusters of entitlement drones connected to the tax payers treasury, Blood suckers !


65 posted on 06/08/2012 12:30:24 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: nuke rocketeer

Mittens’s time and money would be much better invested in the toss-up states, instead of on some California hail-mary mission.


66 posted on 06/08/2012 12:30:35 PM PDT by kevao
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To: nuke rocketeer
2008 Presidential election: This time around, I'd expect the map to look mostly red, with a very highly-populated blue on the left fringe. Still adds up to an Obama win, but no longer a rout.
67 posted on 06/08/2012 12:31:30 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Gettin Betta

Yeah a lot of people don’t fully understand that many people’s careers are tied to lefty whack job and a pay check. You know this and I know this. Thus signs are not so readily available. Plus a lot of conservatives are aware of the vitriol and impropriety of the wacko lefties and don’t want car or home damage. Talk about fascists. You can really feel that here. Yet I bet as we close in and a few people take the risk, we will see more Romney signs. People like him here.


68 posted on 06/08/2012 12:32:00 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: ScottinVA

But, at the same time the liberal-dominated San Jose voted in a landslide to reduce pensions for public sector workers. So, while many libs are going to continue to be blind to the truth, staggeringly high numbers of people in two elections in urban California have shown that can see past the BS and hype. That has to be encouraging.


69 posted on 06/08/2012 12:32:04 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: nuke rocketeer
I remember much of the California of yesteryear...


70 posted on 06/08/2012 12:34:30 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Tenacious 1; Lazamataz
Haha. BUSTED!!!!

LOL. I'm calling BS. You are far more superficial than that. An offer of $1,000,000 and a room with a playmate at the mansion and you'd forget what country you were from.

71 posted on 06/08/2012 12:35:35 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Persevero
If you could just lop off the San Francisco Bay Area, California would be a very conservative state.

But sadly, you can’t lop it off!

Paraphrased: Nuke it from orbit -- it’s the only way to be sure.

72 posted on 06/08/2012 12:40:22 PM PDT by Bob
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To: ScottinVA

gullwing Merc with a hot Cali brunette

totally awesome

(what’s with the Norge refrigerators in the background, LOL)


73 posted on 06/08/2012 12:41:10 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Kirkwood

Having been in that boat and getting an estimate from the rent car agency for damages to a Rolls rather than the preg.rollerskate rented, he is prolly booking some counter info.


74 posted on 06/08/2012 12:41:31 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Heard a surprising election day story last night from a friend in downtown Los Angeles who recently became a citizen and is voting in his first presidential primary. His local polling place was on the border of Skid Row and as he was walking to it a Black homeless man pushing a shopping cart of his belongings came up and asked my friend where to go vote. Turned out my friend wasn’t correct on the location and the homeless man found it and chided my friend a bit about the mislocation. As they entered, my friend about fell over as the homeless man went straight to the sole Republican booth to vote! Ha! Side note - I persuaded my friend to register Republican when he became a citizen ;-)


75 posted on 06/08/2012 1:02:36 PM PDT by Irishgirl
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To: rightwingcrazy

I remember many years when the entire southern portion of that map was red.


76 posted on 06/08/2012 1:05:52 PM PDT by Irishgirl
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To: ScottinVA
It's not core LA or SF -- they have always been Democratic powerhouses. It was the loss of the suburbs that made California uncompetitive for statewide Republicans. There are towns that George H.W. Bush carried with 65% of the vote in 1988 that Obama carried with the same majority 20 years later. Flip those back and you're in business.
77 posted on 06/08/2012 1:14:05 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: nuke rocketeer

“I don’t think California will be as Easy a Win For 0bama as He Thinks”

Obama will carry California with 55-60% of the vote, easily, without breaking a sweat.

Same for states such as Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, possibly Connecticut (my state).

California has more than a majority of “true believers”. It doesn’t matter if the social order has broken down, that they have no fuel for their vehicles, no electricity for their homes, no order in their streets — the will STILL be blaming “the evil conservatives”, the “greedy Republicans”, and the “cruel capitalists” to their very last breaths.


78 posted on 06/08/2012 1:21:22 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Little Ray; Bob

“I have to wonder what it is about urban areas that turns people into liberals.”

I’ve thought about that, too, and I don’t think it so much turns them into liberals as it attracts all the liberals.

How? Plenty of welfare. Many soup kitchens and the like. Major colleges and universities. Union activism. Large tracts of public housing. Illegal drug availability. “night life.” Sanctuary city policy.

Not found in nearly the quantity in suburban/rural areas?


79 posted on 06/08/2012 1:26:00 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Gettin Betta

I can confirm your post. I’m in the San Fernando Valley, too. I have NEVER seen a Romney bumper sticker. I don’t even know what they look like.


80 posted on 06/08/2012 1:29:36 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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