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To: TribalPrincess2U

Exactly, I’ve been paying in since about 15/16 (around 30 years) and I just want my money back. While I’d rather have it back with even minimum interest, I’d settle for just having it back. We’ve been robbed and all we ever hear is that the fund is broken and we’ll never see a dime. It’s torture to get those statements in the mail about what we would get if we retired at xx age.


76 posted on 06/06/2012 6:54:15 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

I didn’t steal your SS contribution and neither did my children or future grandchildren. If I get the chance to vote to kill SS today, I would. Do not steal from me just because someone stole from you. It is not moral, ethical or even based on common sense. SS should be ended cold turkey!


77 posted on 06/06/2012 9:06:48 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: Borax Queen

You’re not going to get your money back, and you have no right to expect that you ever could.

The US Supreme Court case of Flemming v. Nestor in 1960 settled the issue of what SS is (a social insurance scheme is what the Court ruled) and what expectation people who have paid in can have of a return of “their” money (none - it isn’t a pension or annuity contract) and that the Congress can cut benefits any time they choose, because the Congress which passed the SS law in 1935 reserved to the Congress the power(s) to make any and all changes they see fit.

The single greatest lie perpetrated by politicians since 1960 is that Social Security benefits are “your” money. Your social security benefits (when or if you draw upon them) are money that people who are currently working pay in. You paid the benefits of people who retired before you, etc.

The Social Security, Medicare and other “entitlements” are “pay-as-you-go” schemes, exactly like a Ponzi scheme. The screamers and dreamers on the liberal side of the aisle like to claim (as they stamp their little feet) that Social Security is NOT a ponzi scheme, but the only point on which they can hang their hats is that Congress authorized Social Security and doesn’t authorize other ponzi schemes. Structurally, the SS system is absolutely a ponzi scheme, where more and more “contributors” are required to pay off the earlier contributors who are now collecting “their” money.


90 posted on 06/08/2012 9:39:12 AM PDT by NVDave
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