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I guess the South had every right to secede. They just didn't have the right to enslave humans. However, the two concepts ARE exclusive.

And Northern liberals had no right expanding the scope and power of the Federal government using the Civil War as an excuse.

Of course, even if the North had allowed a peaceful secession, the South would have been an undeniable threat or am I wrong? It appeared even on the eve of war at Fort Sumpter that the South wasn't overtly aggressive.

It is likely that the South would have diminished greatly in power over the decades relying on slaves instead of innovation. A slave-rich South would have become an impoverished South. Eventually, the South would have been begging to be let back into the Union. But would that have hampered the progress of the United States as to allow the other world powers a freer hand in dominating the globe? Probably.

16 posted on 06/06/2012 7:38:53 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Crucial
I guess the South had every right to secede. They just didn't have the right to enslave humans. However, the two concepts ARE exclusive.

Sorry but I think that you have it backwards. Ownership of slaves was protected by both the Declaration Of Independence and the US Constitution. But the act of secession was never defined in either document (except rhetorically in the DOI).

The south had the "right" to secede by virtue of the human right to rebel, but what they did and how they did it was extra-legal and the root cause of the Civil War.

Great Britain salivated at the prospect of a US internecine war and stood on the sidelines eager for the opportunity to reestablish control in America. Weakened by the conflict, even had the csa prevailed over the union they would have been ripe for the picking of the brits.

23 posted on 06/06/2012 8:23:52 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Crucial

“I guess the South had every right to secede. They just didn’t have the right to enslave humans”

“even if the North had allowed a peaceful secession, the South would have been an undeniable threat “

Total BS. That liberal public school propaganda really got to you.

The North had slavery, too. Hell, it was still in the US Constitution at the time of Civil War. Not even Lincoln wanted to end slavery and he had even worked to ensure freed slaves were never allowed in his home state of Illinois! The Civil War to Lincoln was about his railroad partners needing to keep the union together. Lincoln even wrote that States had the right to leave the union.

Just how was the South an “undeniable threat”? What threat? If it is so “undeniable” then point it out.


35 posted on 06/06/2012 1:21:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Crucial

if the North allowed the South to secede, the Federal Government would have gone bankrupt and the North would have collapsed economically. “There would have been grass growing in the streets of New York and Boston.”

At that time, the South provided about 60-70% of of the Federal Government’s revenue through duties and tariffs (no income tax, remember?). The South would have controlled the mouth of the Mississippi through which most of the commerce of the West and Midwest flowed. The South planned to levy a 10% tariff in its ports (tariffs were the largest part of the reason the South seceded...), greatly undercutting the North’s tariffs.

That, more than any other reason, was the reason for the Civil War.


85 posted on 06/08/2012 12:36:17 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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