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To: smokingfrog
So, the teen told the school officials he would not remove the flag.

Great, Mr. Gainey!! The flag is a symbol of STATE's Rights...it is NOT about SLAVERY!!

15 posted on 06/05/2012 2:05:00 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Also it’s the height of irony that the black grievance mongers don’t ever take note that it’s DEMOCRATS who dug in against freeing slaves and then for Jim Crow provisions, almost every single God-damned time. (And I mean it, God damned those times.) The reason that the grievance mongers give for hating Republicans? Because in the early civil rights era, the party briefly flirted with racial separatists in the South — that’s it. Forget what happened with Abraham Lincoln. Forget why Jim Crow wasn’t able to become even worse than it was. The GOP’s name must be mud!

Yes, slavery was the worst vice of the South and it served as a fatal moral weakness. But the South had virtues too, and the Abraham Lincoln cure from the North did not come without its own (if lesser) problems of greater socialistic philosophy. Why can’t we have freedom AND proper respect to all humans? Why does it have to be either/or?


17 posted on 06/05/2012 2:29:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: ExCTCitizen
Ummm....actually it was lot about slavery (extract from the SC articles of secession):

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which render inoperative the remedies provided by her own law and by the laws of Congress. In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals; and the States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

24 posted on 06/05/2012 3:23:01 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Yes, states rights, not slavery! A states right to own slaves! LOL


66 posted on 06/05/2012 8:37:33 PM PDT by turn_to
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