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The List: A to Z Survival for the Abysmal Times Ahead
TSHTF Plan ^ | 6-2-2012 | Mac Slavo/Be Informed

Posted on 06/02/2012 7:34:00 PM PDT by blam

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To: sauropod

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21 posted on 06/02/2012 8:38:03 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: blam

Looking in the G section for God. Nope.

Looking in the J section for Jesus. Nope.

The list is missing the two ingredients necessary for the dark day.


22 posted on 06/02/2012 8:39:03 PM PDT by lurk
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To: blam

All this just to live one extra week until the government finds you, shoots you, and takes what you have to distribute to their loyalist thugs? :/


23 posted on 06/02/2012 8:39:54 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, at least thats something. lol


24 posted on 06/02/2012 8:42:21 PM PDT by depenzz (There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt. John Adam)
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To: blam

I would like to fill out the category of “Binoculars”.

Get the best quality you can afford. The Nikon Superior E or several other of their top of the line are maybe the best in the world. You will not go wrong with Zeiss, Swarovski, Leupold, Docter etc.

There are middle range binoculars which are totally useful. The Swift Audubon typically sells in the $300-470 range and can compare to the high end ones.

I have a Russian Military 7X30 which I got before prices went up. It comes with a range finding grid and individual adjustable eyepieces. It also has a slight yellowish tint which was put there on purpose.

If all you want is maximum optical sharpness these are the way to go especially since they still can be had for under $300 and their optics can stand up to the $3000 Swarovski tho I had much rather have the Swarovski.

A good size is 7-8 power with a 40-42.5-45mm objective. A lot of militaries have used little 6x30. I have a 6x30 made by Nippon Kogaku (Nikon) before 1950. They are among the best I have ever owned.

One of the best bargains I have seen in some time is the Simmons 7x42 porro prism being sold at CDNN for, I think $39.99. These are nearly as compact as roof prism because the prisms are over the top instead of to the side. Their optical quality is in the same range as most $100-200 ones by the major manufacturers.

One company you will never go wrong with is Nikon. Even their cheapest action series are decent.

Water resistant is a good thing to have but not absolutely necessary.

Prisms should be BaK-4 and roof prisms should have phase coated prisms.


25 posted on 06/02/2012 8:42:59 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Any historical observations you want to share to support that?

/johnny

26 posted on 06/02/2012 8:43:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Do you have historical evidence for your observation?

Nope. I'm just thinkin' out loud. Let's say that - for whatever reason - the USA's food distribution network breaks down for a month or so. I'm guessing that folks with hungry, starving children aren't going to just sit at home and do nothing. They're going to go a'raiding. It would be like the Watts riots, times 100.

Will you at the front door with a .357 and Uncle Joe at the back door with a shotgun scare them off, for good? I don't think so. Starving people, especially when they are also armed, are a formidable foe.

That's why I say preppers are screwed too.

But you are correct when you said you'll take your chances. The more preparation a person makes, the better, even if the long-term odds are still poor.

27 posted on 06/02/2012 8:50:36 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: yarddog
"One company you will never go wrong with is Nikon. Even their cheapest action series are decent."

I will agree with that. I used multimillion dollar Nikon steppers/scanners manufacturing IC's for many years.

28 posted on 06/02/2012 9:00:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: Leaning Right
It would be like the Watts riots, times 100.

Thanks for the historical reference.

I'm not in a city center known for crime. I expect that they will wipe themselves out before they get too far.

And for that expectation.... I'll point to barbarians raiding Rome. The barbs were looking for food, they found some gold and took it. Some folks died.

But the take-away is that Romans were starving when the barbs hit the gates.

That's history.

/johnny

29 posted on 06/02/2012 9:05:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam

ping


30 posted on 06/02/2012 9:06:02 PM PDT by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: Leaning Right
Oh... the other things... the barbs negotiated beforehand.

And romans swapped barb kids for dog meat.

And it took a long slow painful process for it to devolve to the empty treasury in Rome to finally get sacked.

History doesn't repeat... but it rhymes.

/johnny

31 posted on 06/02/2012 9:11:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Leaning Right

Choootem Lizabith Chooootem


32 posted on 06/02/2012 9:15:52 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: eartick

Bookmarked


33 posted on 06/02/2012 9:23:53 PM PDT by Baum Threat
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To: blam

Keep


34 posted on 06/02/2012 9:25:01 PM PDT by Floyd Rivers
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To: eartick
To heck with Bad, Bad Leroy... nobody messes with Fred's junk. ;)

/johnny

35 posted on 06/02/2012 9:57:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Prepper PING!!!


36 posted on 06/02/2012 10:01:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: lurk

I hope I am wrong and somehow the world’s economy does not crash and burns, but face it the piper will have to be paid! We might not fall as far or as hard as many countries, but I believe a fall of some kind is inevitable.

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become thier‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Now anyone thinking that prepping is foolish ask you what’s easier telling your children and loved ones why you prepared or explaining to them why you didn’t?

But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Timothy 5:8

But then someone has to stand on the bridge waiting for FEMA to bring them a bottle of water, an MRE and a warm blanket so as to provide the Network Anchors their background ‘Money Shot’. I wonder how that will workout for them?

Face it we’ve kicked the financial can so far down the road that we are running out of road and the can which was once the size of a soda can is now the size of an oil drum (Try kicking that!)

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”

By the way you will find both God and Jesus mentioned in my Manual.


37 posted on 06/02/2012 10:05:12 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam
Honeybees. I can offer some help, but time us getting short.

For those who presently have colonies, if they have not re-queened in the past year or so, now could be a good time.

I'm presently employed with a queen producer. We have New World Carniolan (NWC) queens with freshly updated Sue Cobey breeder queens. Our address is technically Vacaville, CA, although we are miles and miles North of there, actually being closer to Winters, CA.

"Queen season" will be coming to an end soon, with the the mating nucs slated to be coming out of the mating yards soon. We re-celled a few hundred yesterday, but I'm not sure how many more we will continue.

We work these bees in short sleeves and without a veil, for the most part. The main "queen crew" gals work in shorts and sometimes bikini tops. Much of the field crew goes shirtless when they can get away with it, but dealing with the queenless cell builder colonies, generally aint' the time, hehheh...

These bees are otherwise typically as gentle as can be, when queen-right, and treated right, just a little smoke, no quick moves, no unnecessary jostling of the hive, work in the heat of the day, when the forager bees are on the wing, etc. I stick my bare hand right in 'em quite often, and most days rarely get stung. Google "Sue Cobey" and "NWC" for better info on typical Carniolian honeybee characteristics.

I'm under the impression the apiary I'm employed with has had a long-standing relationship with her, and has much used/been involved with her own particular NWC genetics, stretching back to the early 1980's when she herself first sold breeder queens, doing business as "Vacaville Apiaries", though the specifics of the history of the relationship I've not been privy to. I was informed that at least some of our present breeder queens came from her (ALL of our bees are Carniolan, save for some of the cell builders), and we just got a few more, too, (saw a few caged queens introduced with my own eyes) although those last ones won't be grafted from until next year(?) unless there be some intent to graft one last go-round from those particular queens, with the idea of carrying some colonies from that batch over for early next spring.

Any interested please feel free to inquire. $18.50 per queen, shipping costs (US Mail) not included, has been the commercial rate, for bulk buyers ordering dozens if not a few hundred at a time.

I'm not in charge of the pricing, or the shipping, but can answer some questions, and/or provide contact details to reach the apiary's owner directly. He does all the mailing personally himself, I think.

We re-queen with what we produce ourselves (of course) with our own colonies, most of which are dedicated to pollination, although some 400 or so went to North Dakota a few weeks ago for honey production. I've seen mated queens be shipped out to other commercial beeks by the hundred lot.

Package bees *might* be available. We've been splitting, and might not desire or need to smoke up some nurse bees ---BUT --- I might be able to talk them into it. One yard comes to mind ... they are starting to put away some stores. We've been supering (with brood comb) just about everything, here of late, including splits made a month ago now.

If one is in Northern climes, or is located where there may be some good nectar flows still anticipated (or just starting, and can be expected to last a couple of months) than one might even be able to even start a colony from scratch, this late in the year. Existing comb, mo' better.

The longer such is delayed, the dicier the proposition --- yet if one had on hand a few good brood combs in which a mated queen could start laying right away, then provided enough nectar and pollen be available, the prospects for building up enough to survive a winter, then come out strong next spring is highly possible, even this late in the spring.

Generally speaking, one needs be established by June 15, yet there can be exceptions. I know of areas in California that have strong Fall-thru-late Fall Eucalyptus flows.

If I could put a new package colony under or around any trees I desired --- not being hindered either by city ordinances, or not allowed access to the right locations ---- I'm sure I could start a package or a late split, as late as Sept 15, possibly Oct.15, and still make it work. Think San Diego, to San Luis Obispo County.

In a sense, all beekeeping is "local".

38 posted on 06/02/2012 10:12:55 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: lurk
Looking in the G section for God. Nope. / Looking in the J section for Jesus. Nope. / The list is missing the two ingredients necessary for the dark day.

Exactly. Having just read the book of Acts this week, it's obvious Paul—experiencing one life-threatening hardship after another—had few of the items on this list. But he had GOD!!! Yeah!

39 posted on 06/02/2012 10:36:52 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: blam

Mark for later. Needs further study, possibly printing of the list.


40 posted on 06/03/2012 12:09:22 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Mitt Romney is the supreme exemplification of the word SMARMY.)
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