Posted on 06/02/2012 7:20:48 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
Houston Gets Lame Space Shuttle Replica Delivered In Lamest Way Possible
The deliveries of the real Space Shuttles to their final resting places were grand events that created amazing images. Houston, which deserved a real d@mn shuttle, is getting a replica.
And just in case Houstonians didn't know they were getting shortchanged, it was delivered on a plane but instead on a d@mn barge. Thanks, NASA.
I'm not going to get into all the reasons why Houston didn't get a Space Shuttle as it might be mistaken as saying someone else doesn't deserve one. Clearly, both D.C. and Los Angeles have good reasons to get one. NYC doesn't, and has thus offended me as a Texan and a Houstonian and I will loudly remind them of that fact whenever I get the chance.
Instead of a real shuttle Houston is getting a replica called Explorer that will be fitted with a real-ish interior so kids can go crawling through it. It makes perfect sense to transport the replica from Kennedy in Florida to Houston via the ocean, but it still stings.
The first word on the moon may have been "Houston," but the last word on Houston's shuttle copy is sadly "barge."
(Excerpt) Read more at jalopnik.com ...
Being this was historic and recorded, we know what the first words were and the exact times they were spoken from the lunar surface which are depicted in #25, regardless of what the public or anyone else thinks or believes.
What the public thinks generally lacks details and are inaccurate. It's that same public "thinking" which elected Obama, thinking he would somehow be a good leader.
One to Washington (The Air and Space Museums)
One to So Cal (Where the Shuttle was born and built at the now gone No. American Rockwell Space Division, Downey CA)
One to Kennedy Space Center FL
One to Johnson Space Center (mission control) Houston TX
===== NY can have the mockup====
PS I grew up near Space Division Downey CA...
I use to have a chunk of scrap shuttle tile
Also got to have a meeting of an aviation group I was with at Space Division around 79 in the room with full size Shuttle mockup...
We had free access to Shuttle mockup at that meeting all night...
We climbed all over that thing for hours, all taking turns in the the pilot seat on the flight deck
That's funny, because when I turn off the car after a long trip, I like to recite the Apollo 11 checklist.
But Barry said that because the checklist was part of a long-rehearsed procedural script, he is “inclined toward saying that the first ‘intentional’ words spoken on the moon were Armstrong’s report to Houston that they had landed.”
I think he recited the list after they were down. There was that pause, and to me there's a real release of tension in the "OK" and the free flow of the words. Houston did say, "We copy you down Eagle," but as Mailer notes, it was a question, and Armstrong replied in the affirmative, "Roger, Houston. Tranquility Base here. The eagle has landed."
“”The first word is still Houston to the public and always will be””
That is a fact, why keep posting things to me that I posted myself in post 19 which you keeping attacking?
To: dragnet2
The first word is still Houston to the public and always will be, and rightfully so, for instance no one is interested if he muttered something under his breath to himself out of habit, such as cool, or alright.
“We sought clarity from Bill Barry, NASA’s chief historian.
No luck: Barry told us that there are “a range of right answers.” He said “contact light” was one possibility because those words were uttered the moment that the module touched the surface of the moon.
“The next option,” he said, is the first word spoken after all four of the module’s foot pads came to rest on the moon. It’s not clear exactly when that happened, Barry said, but it probably occurred as the astronauts were running down their post-shutdown “checklist” — “like the one you do every day, but probably don’t say aloud, when you park your car.”
But Barry said that because the checklist was part of a long-rehearsed procedural script, he is “inclined toward saying that the first ‘intentional’ words spoken on the moon were Armstrong’s report to Houston that they had landed.”
19 posted on Sat Jun 02 2012 20:08:07 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by ansel12
“Any Democrats in Texas?”
Yeah, and most of them are in Houston along with their gay mayor!
Point being, Houston was the nerve center of all NASA flights. Other than the Cape, no other single place was a vital to NASA.
But the fact is, the lunar surface contact sensing probes were attached to and part of the craft, which touched down within a matter of 2 seconds or so after contact light illuminated with the landing pad almost immediately contacting the surface. Technically you're probably correct with "OK, engine stop", being the first words. But what is known is the first word spoken from the surface was certainly not, "Houston" regardless of how much some want to be so.
Barry just figured that Texas got Colombia in 2003 so they didn’t need another real shuttle....
Yet, in the memory of man, Houston, Texas will forever endure with man escaping earth’s limitations and joining the stars.
Fluke Texas, if we had escaped that TX crapweasel LBJ and the Great Society we could of been on Mars today!
Evidently it wasn’t to be, but Texas lives.
One has to wonder what part of Obama’s anatomy Chuckie Schumer had to kiss (an how often) to get the shuttle that they received.
The Gulf of Mexico is not an intercoastal waterway either...
but point taken...
You might believe that, but thousands aerospace engineers, scientist, designers and builders would very much disagree with you.
I strongly recommend you read the aerospace/aviation history in regards to California.
Southern California was the aerospace capital of the world before, during and after the Apollo missions.
BTW, if Kennedy hadn't been assassinated, mission control would have ended up in Massachusetts. As others have mentioned, the only reason it ended up in Texas was LBJ, who happened to be one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history, who porked it through.
That all being said, I believe Texas, not NY, should have been given the Enterprise.
Tell us how you really feel.
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I think Texas should simply refuse delivery and attempt no communique with the 0bama Administration.
Sometimes silence is thunderous.
Who wants a real boondoggle when a fake one will do?
The libs prob still refer to the land it as "Cape Kennedy", but the locals hate that name and the fact an outsider tried to rename their home.
Have a good one ansel12!
Just thought I’d mention that I was way behind the curve on the available Apollo 11 audio. I’ve been an occasional student of the Lunar Surface Journal, but I concentrated on the later missions with the better video. For Apollo 11, I was only familiar at all with the downlink audio. Listening to the downlink + control, and the onboard audio last night was quite illuminating. It really brings home the daring, and indeed the audacity of this mission.
So thanks to you and everybody for this discussion.
Some may not be aware, but it was so dangerous, so daring, the President of the United States had a speech already prepared to announce the failure and their deaths. I have included that below.
50,000 things could have easily gone wrong, stranding these people on the lunar surface, crashing them onto the surface etc...First time in the history of man, these people left earth and actually walked on another world not knowing if they'd ever return home to earth or even reach the surface alive.
Armstrong recently said the chances of a successful landing on the moon were only 50 percent.
Tucked away in the National Archives the speech written for Nixon for the historic lunar landing on July 20, 1969, but one he never hoped to read.
According to the plan, Nixon would have called the wives of the Apollo 11 astronauts to express his condolences and then give the following speech:
Nixon speechwriter William Safire wrote the words Nixon never had to use below:
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"Fate has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace. These brave men, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, know that there is no hope for their recovery. But they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice.
"These two men are laying down their lives in mankind's most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding. They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.
"In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man. In ancient days, men looked at stars and saw their heroes in the constellations. In modern times, we do much the same, but our heroes are epic men of flesh and blood.
"Others will follow, and surely find their way home. Man's search will not be denied. But these men were the first, and they will remain the foremost in our hearts.
"For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know that there is some corner of another world that is forever mankind."
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