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Obama order sped up wave of cyberattacks against Iran (Get yer boots on!)
NYTimes vie MSNBC.com ^ | 6/1/2012 | DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 06/01/2012 2:56:01 AM PDT by raybbr

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To: raybbr

Next, we will be reading about hussein’s bravery about taking on the role of target by all terrorist groups since it is he, and he alone, who is responsible for taking out all the bad guys.


21 posted on 06/01/2012 4:50:34 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: raybbr
Hey 0 bummer, "Loose lips sink ships".
22 posted on 06/01/2012 5:04:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: gotaz
You're right. You never give away what your capabilities are. Maybe the Iranians had some clues that pointed at the US or Israel etc. Maybe they had some that pointed at others as the source. By going public with this, he just confirmed and/or refuted some of their sources. That gives the Iranians more confidence in some sources, less in others. In other words folks, he just gave their intelligence services undeniable aid and support.

Interesting how hussein is only referred to by title what, once in the article. Then it is simply "Mr."

One other thing. These meetings, if they took place, were "secret" meetings. So presumably no-one is allowed to talk about them. Only the anointed hussein cohort in crime can "leak" their version of events. If anyone else talks about them, off to prison, do not pass go, do not get your day in court. (National Security don't you know!) So all we have is some hussein flunky's version of events. I seriously doubt it went down the way they say it did.

23 posted on 06/01/2012 6:03:18 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: raybbr

from the looong ny times article:

Mr. Obama, according to participants in the many Situation Room meetings on Olympic Games, was acutely aware that with every attack he was pushing the United States into new territory, much as his predecessors had with the first use of atomic weapons in the 1940s, of intercontinental missiles in the 1950s and of drones in the past decade. He repeatedly expressed concerns that any American acknowledgment that it was using cyberweapons — even under the most careful and limited circumstances — could enable other countries, terrorists or hackers to justify their own attacks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/middleeast/obama-ordered-wave-of-cyberattacks-against-iran.html?_r=1&;


24 posted on 06/01/2012 6:07:21 AM PDT by quimby
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To: raybbr
the New York Times?

Automatic dismissal.

25 posted on 06/01/2012 6:12:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: quimby

Is it just me or does it seem a real stretch to equate hacking an IT system with all of the work that went into developing ICBMs or atomic weapons?

Someone seems a little full of himself.


26 posted on 06/01/2012 6:22:20 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: quimby

Is it just me or does it seem a real stretch to equate hacking an IT system with all of the work that went into developing ICBMs or atomic weapons?

Someone seems a little full of himself.


27 posted on 06/01/2012 6:22:20 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: raybbr

To paraphrase Eli Wallach in “The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly,”: If you’re going to talk, talk; if you’re going to hack, hack!


28 posted on 06/01/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: gotaz

I don’t think it was on purpose, but the repeating of this particular post was fine with me. Admitting this is FUBAR.


29 posted on 06/01/2012 6:32:51 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: gotaz
Obama is informing US is behind Stuxnet?

this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security

And then some, particularly so as it concerns Iran at this time. This is mind-bogglingly self-serving at the price of national security.

30 posted on 06/01/2012 6:39:30 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Next story:

“Obama first president to memorize nuclear codes, says it’s easy for him because they’re 888777666555444.”


31 posted on 06/01/2012 6:43:36 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; gotaz
....self-serving....

When you talk about The 0, those are actually the two most operative words that can be imagined.

...and if you think that this was a crass move, just wait until the campaign/WH starts to get really desperate.

JMHO, if The 0's private polls don't start going up almost exponentially by the end of July, there won't be ANY limits on the stuff that gets exposed or the measures that will be used against his opponents. Right down to thee and me.

This Chicago Clown Posse is just liable to try to make Apres moi le deluge into real life, if they don't get what they want.

32 posted on 06/01/2012 7:42:14 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((231 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Here is a 'secret' picture of the 'meeting' where Obama said, "should we shut this thing down?"


33 posted on 06/01/2012 8:48:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: D-fendr

Realistically where would Iran think Stuxnet came from?

US and Israel?

or

China and Venezuela?


34 posted on 06/01/2012 8:57:30 AM PDT by nascarnation
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>>”where would Iran think Stuxnet came from?”

Better to keep them thinking than to let them, their people, and the word know.

It is and should have remained a secret program.


35 posted on 06/01/2012 9:39:59 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: nascarnation

>>”where would Iran think Stuxnet came from?”

Better to keep them thinking than to let them, their people, and the world know.

It is and should have remained a secret program.


36 posted on 06/01/2012 9:40:26 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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And they manage to blame Israel for something here also:

Mr. Obama, according to officials in the room, asked a series of questions, fearful that the code could do damage outside the plant. The answers came back in hedged terms. Mr. Biden fumed. “It’s got to be the Israelis,” he said. “They went too far.”

Plus details and confirmation of specifics of implementation and how Stuxnet was escaped from an Iranian engineer’s computer.

Way too many loose lips and, of course, the NYT will print it - especially in an article to tout our ballsy CIC.

I think Congress should investigate the leaks and heads should roll.


37 posted on 06/01/2012 9:50:11 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
So why is it in the papers now?

The Barry/Axelrod axis has decided to enlist the ever willing NYSlimes in a series of stories designed to show that Barry is some kind of tough hombre. Earlier this week, it was "Barry - Master of Drones." Now this. And of course, as you note, cyber warrior Barry gets all the credit.

38 posted on 06/01/2012 10:26:33 AM PDT by mojito
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To: raybbr

If this was 1944, and Obama was in the White House, he would be telling people how he’s getting tough with Germany by scheduling the invasion of Normandy for next week.


39 posted on 06/01/2012 10:40:58 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: raybbr

Stuxnet had to at least start development under Bush. You can’t write code like that on the fly.


40 posted on 06/01/2012 10:56:17 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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