[john mirse]

I would like the Florida judge to do at least one thing.

That is, I would like for him to say something like the following in court to both sides:

"Before I can make a decision, I want to see and examine a certified copy of President Obama's long form birth certificate, one that comes directly from Hawaii officials and not one that comes courtesy of President Obama and the White House. "

I think that such a statement would surely shake up the people at the White House just a little bit, if not more.

[Seizethecarp]

Absent legal discovery of evidence challenging authenticity of either of Barry's BCs, under the full faith and credit clause, a federal judge would be compelled to accept a certified copy of a BC from HI, either COLB or LFBC, if one were placed into evidence, but that simple act has never been undertaken by Barry's lawyers in any judicial proceeding.

State issued certified BCs (COLB or LFBC) are “self-authenticating” under the federal rules of evidence, but that is only a “prima facie” standard, meaning that the BCs could be challenged if sufficient evidence could be provided for a challenge.

It remains to be seen whether the Arpaio Posse probable cause evidence of forgery rises to a level that would prompt a federal judge to request examination of the “best evidence,” that being the 1961 record in the HI files (or whatever the heck HI has in the files).