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Romney & American Conservatism
Truth Based Logic Domain ^ | May 31, 2012 | William Flax

Posted on 05/31/2012 11:10:05 AM PDT by Ohioan

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To: ansel12
Old "rinos," eh! I have never voted for a Rockefeller type Republican for any office. I did not vote for McCain, I could not vote for Bush II in 2004.

I was working for Goldwater from December, 1960, before the newly elected JFK was even sworn in, being a founding member of a non-partisan Conservative group in Cincinnati, called "Here We Stand." When Kennedy came to town in September, 1962, to support Democratic candidates in the fall election, and spoke in our town square, he was faced with the embarrassment of a crowd in which dozens of peaceful attendees carried Conservative signs, issued by me, from my law office, overlooking the event, which embarrassed him in the news media--which showed the signs--etc..

In 1974, I ran in the Congressional Primary against a moderate Republican who had the support of the local organization & a far, far better ballot name, who spent almost five times what I had to spend and only narrowly beat me. That did not endear me to those you call "rinos."

I could go on, decade by decade. But I am not one of those "lesser of two evils," go along types--and have not been.

But Obama represents a far greater evil than did JFK, or the Rockefeller Republicans, or Jimmy Carter, or LBJ, or Bill Clinton. We have no alternative but to make the best of Romney, and he is at least trying to move in our direction.

William Flax

41 posted on 06/02/2012 12:32:58 PM PDT by Ohioan
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42 posted on 06/04/2012 6:50:25 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Polite & patient persistence is what is called for.


43 posted on 06/04/2012 8:02:49 AM PDT by Ohioan
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You, also, completely ignore my point.

Perhaps, if you had a better point, people wouldn't ignore it.

We are now in approximately our 100th year of drifting leftward in this nation, with only a couple small gyrations to the right - which most statisticians would simply classify as noise, and you are essentially asking that we keep trying the same methods "grass roots efforts" to move the elite monolith to the right.

When grass root efforts try to work with big money corruption, grass roots has consistently failed over the long term.

The political machine (singular not plural) which gives us a Romney and an Obama) must be defeated as it cannot be moved anywhere.

44 posted on 06/04/2012 8:23:28 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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My point goes far beyond just calling for another grass-roots effort. It calls for a patient, polite & persistent effort to play both to the issues, but also to Romney's pride & the needs of his campaign to counter the corrupt "class warfare" tactics of the demagogue in the White House.

When you lump a spokesman for entrepreneurial capitalism--even one who in the past chased after some of the Socialist idiots in Massachusetts--with an outright advocate of Marxist class warfare, you do not make a point; rather demonstrate your substitute of a personal bias for actual analysis.

Romney has supported a lot of things that I do not like, in his past political career. But I propose to patiently appeal to his ability as an avowed--and actually proven--problem solver, to consider all of the facts that make those past policies a mistake.

William Flax

45 posted on 06/04/2012 10:25:08 AM PDT by Ohioan
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My point was that patient, polite & persistent efforts have gotten conservatives nowhere over many decades except further and further left.

I'm inclined to run out patience before I run out of life.

I also, don't think politeness is a benefit when the other side is extremely rude, and;

I'll choose resistance over persistence, since the later is playing right into the beltway elitists hands.

We have went from a common cold to bronchitis to pneumonia and today our freedoms lie in dire straits clinging to life.

It's time to throw the bums out, not try to work with them any longer.

46 posted on 06/04/2012 10:50:04 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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Nothing at my web site suggests polite patience with respect to those actively engaged in trying to undermine our Constitution or take away our liberty. The approach is suggested for a case such as Governor Romney, who is actively seeking our support with a promise of smaller, less intrusive, Government. The intention is to get him to look at various other issues with the same analytic methodology that he uses as a financial problem solver.

While many Conservatives, themselves, miss the point; the same human dynamics which make the free market the ultimate engine for economic growth, support the maximizing of individual responsibility & minimizing of government across a wide spectrum of human interaction. (For an obvious example, consider why Switzerland has a far lower crime rate than Socialized--disarmed--Britain. Or consider how much better Church administered Welfare worked in Jefferson's Virginia, than what we have in America, today.)

William Flax

47 posted on 06/04/2012 11:35:56 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
Polite & patient persistence is what is called for.
48 posted on 06/05/2012 8:53:35 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
Polite & patient persistence is still what is called for.
49 posted on 06/06/2012 12:16:47 PM PDT by Ohioan
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