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To: sometime lurker

There is NO instance in which Trumbull EVER said that only children of diplomats owe allegiance to anybody else. You are ascribing meaning which simply ISN’T THERE there merely because you wish it to be. That’s why the opinions of people like you are so easy for those with an agenda to manipulate.


258 posted on 06/02/2012 6:53:12 AM PDT by Rides3
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To: Rides3
Your basic reading comprehension need work, and you need to stop using strawman arguments. Trumbull gave examples which I have quoted for you, such as
It is only those persons who come completely within our jurisdiction, who are subject to our laws that we think of making citizens;
and said
The senator from Missouri and myself desire to arrive at the same point precisely, and that is to make citizens of everybody born in the United States who owe allegiance to the United States. We cannot make a citizen of the child of a foreign minister who is temporarily residing here. There is a difficulty in framing the amendment so as to make citizens of all the people born in the United States, and who owe allegiance to it. I thought that might, perhaps, be the best form in which to put the amendment at one time, 'that all persons born in the United States, and owing allegiance thereto, are hereby declared to be citizens;' but, upon investigation, it was found that a sort of allegiance was due to the country from persons temporarily residing in it whom we would have no right to make citizens,
And now, like Mr. Rogers, I weary of trying to help you understand the actual record when you are fixated on finding snippets that support the position you want to hold. Self delusion does not help get 0bama out of office.
260 posted on 06/02/2012 7:16:58 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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