Posted on 05/29/2012 11:39:45 PM PDT by Red Steel
[Full title] Posse in Hawaii: 'Shocking' news coming Investigator says state's letter on Obama's birth 'opened door' to new revelations
A letter from Hawaiis Department of Health verifying Barack Obamas birth in Honolulu has not only not stopped Sheriff Joe Arpaios Cold Case Posse work on the island, his lead investigator reports it has actually opened the door to some shocking revelations the posse is promising to disclose.
Among the details leaked early by Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo: There are allegedly several stamps bearing Registrar Alvin Onakas name floating around inside the Hawaii Department of Health.
Zullo was interviewed via telephone from Hawaii by Tea Party Power Hour host Mark Gillar to discuss, among other things, a letter stamped with Onakas name and sent to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett as verification of Obamas Hawaiian birth.
But Zullo who met with Hawaii Department of Health officials in Honolulu the day before the letter to Bennett was issued said the verification did deter the investigation briefly, but actually, what looked like it was going to be almost like a deal killer, in a sense opened the door up to a greater avenue of investigational material.
There is a lot that has been uncovered as a result of it, he said.
I cant disclose to you what weve discovered, but its going to be a shocking revelation at our press conference, Zullo promised.
Zullo affirmed the posses intention to release their findings publicly within the next few weeks.
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“if the fraud, conspiracy, and mirade of of crimes are allowed to stand without penalty ... just because those that committed the crimes were members of govt...
“then we have no legal system at all
at which point... what do you pay taxes for? what are you buying with all that money?”
Both good questions, and I certainly admire your idealism. However, that’s not the way the world works - especially not in Washington.
You're missing the point, perhaps intentionally. Someone purposely forged a fake document on Obama's behalf who was not part of the HI DOH. This means it can't be ruled out that his COLB jpg and LFBC PDF were forged outside of the HI DOH. Besides, if the HI DOH was "forging" birth certificates, wouldn't they come up with something that looks genuine, including the required raised seal??
if you went to a nice restaurant and ordered dinner... and all they brought you was a ketchup packet and a bill for $200...
would you still pay for it?
that’s the situation we’re in now. we have laws based on a Constitution... both are being ignored... while we’re supposed to keep paying
“we have laws based on a Constitution... both are being ignored... while were supposed to keep paying”
Yup.
I am not intentionally missing the point. If i'm missing the point, it's because I don't understand it.
Someone purposely forged a fake document on Obama's behalf who was not part of the HI DOH.
I have no knowledge of this. I do not know if his documents were forged outside of HI DOH.
This means it can't be ruled out that his COLB jpg and LFBC PDF were forged outside of the HI DOH.
I have heard speculation that his initial COLB jpg was faked up by parties unknown before he released the copy he purportedly got from Hawaii. I do not know with certainty who forged his LFBC PDF, but I lean strongly towards believing that it was Hawaii DOH. They have the means, the motive and the Authority to do so, so I suspect them first.
Besides, if the HI DOH was "forging" birth certificates, wouldn't they come up with something that looks genuine, including the required raised seal??
It does look genuine, but only to a casual inspection. They make replacement birth certificates every day. The documents they produced are only supposed to be good enough to fool a child that has one, not the combined efforts of thousands of knowledgeable and interested parties. Replacement birth certificates are NEVER expected to pass the kind of scrutiny this one has been through.
Again, Obviously the Lord of the Chicago underworld can hire GOOD forgers. That we see such mistakes demonstrate that this is NOT the work of a good forger. It looks just about right for the work of a government bureaucrat.
Which copy was that?? The factlack dot org copy?? I don't know of any copies of the COLB that actually came from Hawaii.
It does look genuine, but only to a casual inspection.
I'm not really sure how you can say that. The LFBC doesn't look like any other Hawaiian COLB nor like the Nordyke Certificates or the Miki Booth long-form. I certainly didn't expect to see something that looked like it had been photocopied onto a security form, with an Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. smileyface signature stamp ... randomly faded numbers, a funky file number, etc. ... and especially with no clearly visible raised seal. Every other reputable COLB has a distinct raised seal. The Nordyke LFBCs have distinct raised seals. Everything Obama has released looks funky and weird. It doesn't look like anything else released by Hawaii. I would certainly expect much better if they actually produced it. I take them at their word they gave Obama's courier girl two certified copies of a birth certificate. One was used as a model for the forgery and the other was a backup in case they messed up and needed to start over.
Yes, that original image from factlack dot org was purported to not match the later one. All we can conclude from this is that at least one of them is fake, if not both.
As for one of them being from Hawaii, we don't know for sure if one of them was or was not from Hawaii.
I'm not really sure how you can say that. The LFBC doesn't look like any other Hawaiian COLB nor like the Nordyke Certificates or the Miki Booth long-form. I certainly didn't expect to see something that looked like it had been photocopied onto a security form, with an Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. smileyface signature stamp ... randomly faded numbers, a funky file number, etc. ... and especially with no clearly visible raised seal. Every other reputable COLB has a distinct raised seal. The Nordyke LFBCs have distinct raised seals. Everything Obama has released looks funky and weird. It doesn't look like anything else released by Hawaii. I would certainly expect much better if they actually produced it. I take them at their word they gave Obama's courier girl two certified copies of a birth certificate. One was used as a model for the forgery and the other was a backup in case they messed up and needed to start over.
Except for the green hash paper (Which i'll concede was probably done by the Obama people, not Hawaii) none of the stuff you describe would be noticed in a casual look at it. That is all replacement birth certificates are designed to withstand. If a little boy takes one to a little league signup, it just needs to look more or less like the ones the other little boys have.
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