Posted on 05/28/2012 12:46:18 PM PDT by James Thomas
Thanks for the link. I’ll have to look at the pics tomorrow; I’m out of time tonight.
Now you are assigning motives to me—that I have some ulterior motive for not seeing the same thing you see. Honestly, Fred, that's a bit sick. I don't have your motives or anyone else’s. I studied the ears because I sincerely wanted to know if they were Obama’s or not.
They aren't.
But that conclusion doesn't advance any particular theory I hold. It's just my honest deduction.
Not everyone is as invested in that picture as you are. Some of us just want to get at the truth.
-PJ
I’m not disputing your theory at all. All I’m saying is that we lack a certain number of facts. What I believe is clear at this point is that Obama was not born in HI. It is almost certain that his B-Day is not 8-4-61. I do find myself leaning toward Kenya as his birth place and Obama Sr as the father. I have some reasons,, but no time to delineate them tonight.
I would be the first to say, however, that I can’t prove my conjectures. That’s why there’s such a need for further info. I hope Zullo will supply some of it. As I’ve said before, I’m open to going wherever the actual facts lead. In the meantime, conjecture is all we have for the most part. It’s okay if not all our conjectures perfectly align. We agree on the basic facts—Obama is a liar and a fraud—and that is a very nice piece of common ground, I would think. :)
Ah! The mythical ‘David’ appears. The boy no one can find outside of ‘Dreams’ although many have tried. The mythical David who died in a motor cycle accident...the boy who looks somewhat polynesian, with one black arm. The mythical David for whom zero (Ayres) states in ‘Dreams’ he is mistaken for in the streets of Nairobi, because they looked like twins.
I wondered when he would make an appearance.
You’ll sort it out one day. I’m not going to try and MAKE you see it.
Problem is there is no evidence that SAD is Zero’s mother. Everything in Dreams about parentage needs to be erased, and then only evidence looked at.
If a photo existed of SAD with Zero as a baby or young toddler, we would have seen it. Nothing until he’s around 3.
I am anxious for Arpaio’s upcoming press conference...
-PJ
There is more evidence that SAD is Barack’s mother than this elaborate scheme you have concocted that would involve major felonies.
So tell me, how is that massive fraud possible without the knowledge of the CIA???
There is a file on Stanley that has gone missing. He may have been an informant. He was a known commie sympathizer. So how does Ann, with a FAKE cover story that you have concocted ..end up being allowed in and out of Indonesia ...a hotbed of CIA activity throughout the time Ann was in and out...
How does Ann, teaching crafts, end up being allowed into Indonesia right as the CIA, Kissinger, the NSA, and the President know the Indonesian leader that the US installed is about to start the East Timor massacre???
How does Ann, from a known Commie Sympathizing family - who has put together a MASSIVE GRANDIOSE fraud of a family get the approval to work for entities that have been shown to be CIA fronts???
Explain that one without deflecting from it with Alinsky tactics.
Fred, you derisive tactics don’t work with me.
You can’t explain the motive.
You can’t explain how this massive fraud would be possible without the knowledge and the help of the CIA.
And here is a tip for the google searchers....
Fred Nerks wants you to believe that a huge massive conspiracy took place with a FAKE family, involving known Commie Sympathizers, during a time when the Government was focused on rooting out Communism both in the US AND INDONESIA...
but he can’t explain how it happened or how it was allowed while using Alinsky tactics when the mention is made of the CIA.
More than one former CIA operative has come forward and indicated that the USAID was used as cover for the CIA. Yet, a tag team putting forth an outlandish theory about a FAKE family and a FAKE cover story use Alinsky when the CIA is mentioned.
It should make you go...hmmmmm.....
"Livin' the Blues" is not pornographic literature. It is an autobiography of Frank Davis. The vast bulk of the book is just mundane experiences. There is only the occasional reference to Davis' sexual exploitations.
You must be assuming this information came from his book "Sex Rebel." Well I haven't read that entire book, but I did find copies of some pages online, and I found the section where he talks about a 13 year old girl named "Ann." She is Jamaican, not white, but a lot of people leave out that detail when they mention it as evidence.
Apart from that, you are not going to be very effective as a researcher if you can be made to balk at the fear you might find some dirty words in a piece of text. I would assume that we are all grown-ups here, and have the capability of dealing with the sordid activities of the people whom we are examining. Surely you did't think you were dealing with Rebecca of Donnybrook Farm?
photos found in an attic years later
And this is true of all the photographs we have looked at. Some see resemblance, some do not. I can only say that photographs and resemblance are not necessarily very good indicators of a relationship. If anyone will remember the Maury Pauvich show, every time they did a "Baby's Daddy" segment, they always said "The baby looks just like him!" Well, as often as not, the baby wasn't his baby.
So much for resemblance as a method of determining anything. (Especially with young babies or children.)
Best to you alland please try to remember: we're all conservatives here. We are all dedicated to seeing Obama thrown out of office at the end of this term at the latest. So even when we disagree, why can't we be polite and respectful about it? Why not leave the name calling and insulting to the more childish and silly moonbats; heaven knows they're good at it, and can get by fine w'out any help from us.
And this is the entire point. There are plenty enough enemy out there for us to be disagreeable with. For those of us on the same side, we ought to be able to respectfully disagree without becoming hostile.
So let’s look at Fred Nerks Grandiose Scheme from the Indonesian viewpoint.
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/09/150149910/exposing-indonesias-cold-war-communist-purge
The CIA installed Leader set about proclaiming a New Order.
Communists and sympathizers/fellow travelers were political detainees. Imprisoned, given harsh sentences, property taken away without a trial.
But there were many many many deaths. I suspect Lolo was involved with it. If I remember correctly, he was called back at the time this started
So does it really make sense that a known Commie Sympthasizing FAKE family would be going to Indonesia without some protection?????
Remember, the Leader was installed by the CIA.
Fast forward to the invasion of East Timor for their oil but the excuse being rooting out Communism.
Why does a crafts teacher with a FAKE COMMIE family go to Indonesia right at they are about to invade East Timor and why was her entry even allowed.
A genocide of a 1/3 of the population.
Remember by post about
Zbigniew Brzezinski
The one that blocked Congress from learning about the meeting with Kissenger, Ford and Suharto before the East Timor Invasion??
The person who was involved with many many many things to do with the Cold War???
Zbig Brzezinski: Obama Administration Should Tell Israel U.S. Will Attack Israeli Jets if They Try to Attack Iran
Despite Criticism, Obama Stands By Adviser Brzezinski
http://www.nysun.com/national/despite-criticism-obama-stands-by-adviser/62534/
I saw something about Zbig hand picking Obama for a class he was teaching Don’t really know if it is true because I haven’t looked into it.
I am sure that neither supposed parent is the actual parent of Zero, and there were no reports of SAD in Canada with an infant. The myth in “Dreams” is to make a backstory for a Manchurian president.
Your grandiose Scheme did not start with the book of Dreams.
Your grandiose scheme started in the 60s.
Still waiting for you to tell me how it was possible without the CIA’s help.
Let’s see.
Director of the CIA said that the operation in Indonesia was similar to Operation Phoenix.
Operation Phoenix used the CIA front East-West Center ( Lolo Soetoro) to train operatives.
The CIA issued what amounted to kill lists in Indonesia as they did in Vietnam.
Ann worked for Agencies that former agents have named as covers for the CIA.
Tell me how your grandiose scheme could have possibly happened.
There are so many connections between Dunhams and the CIA that it is unreal how you think your scheme could have happened without their assistance/knowledge.
Btw, in some sort of weird twist of fate
One of the Nordyke twins worked for East-West and authored an article with a man that was responsible for Obama’s birth certicate.
Oh, and someone was compiling names for the East Timor Massacre. I would love to know what Ann Dunham really did when she suddenly went to Indonesia as the massacre was to take place.
CIA Colby’s wife was an official at USAID
Colby released the Family Jewels that revealed just how crazy things were at the CIA.
Was Colby murdered.
Likely.
For what reason?
He had a lot of enemies.
But the Franklin Cover Up is probably what took him down.
Here is some recent good information to look at. It also tells about my conviction that Stanley Ann and Baby Obama traveled from Kenya to Vancouver BC. From Vancouver BC, they made it to Seattle. I say she went by ferry to Mercer Island, which was the natural thing to do if you don’t own a car.
The post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2890625/posts
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