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In Patz Investigation, a Confession Is Not the Final Word
New York Times ^ | 5-26-12 | Michael Wilson

Posted on 05/26/2012 2:55:33 PM PDT by raulgomez05

The man breaks down and cries and says yes, I did it. I killed that 6-year-old boy 33 years ago. I did it.

It should be a detective’s dream come true. The police have their man, their investigation sewn up with a tidy bow of his own damning words.

Far from it, for now the police must try to prove that he did what he said he did. And in the case of the suspect, Pedro Hernandez, and the boy, Etan Patz, that is not going to be easy. In many ways, this confession is a worst-case scenario of corroboration, starting with the body.

The police said Mr. Hernandez confessed to strangling Etan in the basement of the SoHo bodega where he worked in 1979 and dumping the body in a bag with the garbage on the street. Had he buried it in a lot someplace, the police could dig, but Mr. Hernandez’s version of events renders the haystack too big, the needle almost certainly gone for good. The prosecution of Mr. Hernandez ground forward on Friday, with his arraignment on second-degree murder charges. At the same time, officers tried to return to the past, stepping down into the basement of what is now a boutique eyeglasses shop to document its current appearance, not even pretending to believe there are any clues to be found.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: news; patz
Police can go to great lengths in order to close an embarrassing cold case.
1 posted on 05/26/2012 2:55:39 PM PDT by raulgomez05
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To: raulgomez05

which, being interpreted, means exactly what?


2 posted on 05/26/2012 2:58:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: raulgomez05
Nah, if this were a police setup, they would have something a lot more probable than this, something they could actually corroborate. This is pretty much un-provable either way.

What's probably going on here is that a small-time crook with a desire for attention is confessing to a notorious crime.

This happened with the Sacco & Vanzetti murders. People were confessing all over the place -- some to try to keep S&V from the chair, some because they were looking for attention any way they could get it.

I think in this case it may be the latter.

3 posted on 05/26/2012 3:00:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: raulgomez05

Illegal alien...or not? Why can’t we know?


4 posted on 05/26/2012 3:05:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

I’m retired NYPD and actually worked for Lt Geberth. I sense some doubt in his tone and I have a similar doubt. Maybe its instinct, but I find it hard to believe that this man wasn’t questioned. Sorces say he was but there are no records that support that. In addition, this occurred a few yaers before my time on the Department, but I know they used bloodhounds while I was serving in the early 80’s. Hernandez lured Etan Patz with the promise of a soda, killed him, dumped his body in a garbage bag, and the initial search found no trace of him. I find that hard to believe, as well.


5 posted on 05/26/2012 3:24:11 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: montag813

I’m retired NYPD and actually worked for Lt Geberth. I sense some doubt in his tone and I have a similar doubt. Maybe its instinct, but I find it hard to believe that this man wasn’t questioned. Sorces say he was but there are no records that support that. In addition, this occurred a few yaers before my time on the Department, but I know they used bloodhounds while I was serving in the early 80’s. Hernandez lured Etan Patz with the promise of a soda, killed him, dumped his body in a garbage bag, and the initial search found no trace of him. I find that hard to believe, as well.


6 posted on 05/26/2012 3:24:23 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: AnAmericanMother

I agree. Something just doesn’t smell right about this.


7 posted on 05/26/2012 3:25:31 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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Etan Patz





Barack Hussein Obama II

same-sex marriage

pedophile

FBI denies.....

Pedro Hernandez

NAMBLA





8 posted on 05/26/2012 3:43:58 PM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: cumbo78

Yes, this all seems a little pat to me. It doesn’t make sense they wouldn’t have found the body years ago. I suppose it’s possible, but it doesn’t seem likely.

Now, supposedly this man had told his family about this in the past, so I guess you’d want to talk to them too.

What about the time element? This happened at rush hour, is he in the store alone? Did he close the store? You weren’t leaving your store opened an unattended in NYC in the 70s even to kill somebody, even if that would only take a minute.

And the man quoted in the story is right there’s no “why” here. Is this man a serial killer? That doesn’t seem likely. So, one day he just murders a 6 year old, but that’s it, he never before or since commits a crime? That doesn’t seem very likely either.

They say the confessed killer is mentally ill, but that doesn’t make him more credible, it makes him less credible.

Why now? Somebody supposedly tipped off the cops to him, but why now?


9 posted on 05/26/2012 3:47:25 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: cumbo78

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150311/Pedro-Hernandez-Etan-Patz-killer-tried-turn-years-ago-cops-dismissed-crazy.html Here’s the latest from the DM.


10 posted on 05/26/2012 9:30:33 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: AnAmericanMother

In the Saco and Vanzetti case, the most prominent confession was that of Celestino Madeiros. He was facing trial and execution for murder, but without the circus of publicity surrounding Sacco and Vanzetti. He hoped his confession would win him some support. He was at least successful in having his execution delayed to the same day as Sacco and Vanzetti, although he was convicted years later. For whatever reason, he was the first of the three executed that day. His confession was a transparent lie, that did achieve the desired effect of tying his fate to the Sacco and Vanzetti traveling circus and keeping him alive as long as they lived.


11 posted on 05/27/2012 6:12:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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