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To: sam_paine

I can assure you the PLA is not on the periphery of this issue.

It’s not like this is unknown. The subject has been publicly discussed since at least 2005.

You should at least read up before claiming the threat of counterfeit chips is simply an IP or revenue issue.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/4253628

“Such tampering wouldn’t have to occur in a factory where computer components were built. In fact, repair businesses and subcontractors may pose a greater danger. “A skilled and capable adversary could replace a chip on a circuit board with a very similar one,” says John Pironti, a security expert for information technology consulting firm Getronics. “But this chip would have malicious instructions added to the programming.” The strategy wouldn’t be practical for running a broad identity-theft operation, but it might allow spies to focus an attack on a valuable corporate or government target—gaining access to equipment, then doctoring it with hidden functions”

http://defensetech.org/2012/03/29/richard-clarke-all-u-s-electronics-from-china-could-be-infected/

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_41/b4103034193886.htm?chan=magazine+channel_top+stories


154 posted on 05/23/2012 11:37:37 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa; NVDave
You should at least read up before claiming the threat of counterfeit chips is simply an IP or revenue issue.

THESE CASES ARE IP OR REVENUE FRAUD. THESE CASES ARE NOT ESPIONAGE-ON-A-CHIP.

Your links go a step further in obfuscation by interchangeably mixing IP theft via soft hacking, and "fake parts" which are totally different.

As your own links show, you've got a John Pironti (a counsultant with a fax machine) and Richard Clark trying to sell some consulting.

Go ahead and focus on the PLA. Ban all "Chicom components." Then explain how that does one goddam thing to avoid true espionage as I describe above.

Get it through your head.

FAKE PARTS are fraud. Those cost companies Dollars.

Espionage parts will be LEGIT. Those cost lives.

That's the difference.

157 posted on 05/23/2012 2:45:54 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Justa

And fwiw, from a respectful disagreement (ALLCAPS) point of view, may I recommend that you temper your use of Pop Mechanics as a technical news source?

In past decades it was a nice Reader’s Digest of technology.

But it seems to have become the CBS Evening News of silly checkout stand nonsense.

A shame. It’s a toy balloon of content. Thin veneer with lighter-than-air inside.


167 posted on 05/24/2012 7:24:22 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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