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To: New Jersey Realist
To reply to your earlier post, The flaw in the argument can be found in the structure of the English language. Just as to "immunize" is to make one immune, so is "naturalize" the process that makes one "natural." Anyone who has been naturalized is accorded all the rights and privileges of a natural citizen. This does not make him a natural-born citizen.

For a great part of our history, even being born here did not make you a citizen, unless your parents were citizens. This was changed with the 14th Amendment, to ensure that freed slaves were accorded citizenship. It was made clear by its framers, at the time of its adoption, that this Amendment only accorded "birthright citizenship" and would not, indeed, could not alter the requirements for NBC. Note also, the language of the 14th - "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States..." Who is not "subject to the jurisdiction?" Foreign diplomats and agents, those in the country illegally and transients who have been admitted for a short period. This leads to the question as to whether Obama is even a citizen (which might explain why his Social Security No. fails E-Verify.)

239 posted on 05/23/2012 1:07:09 PM PDT by NJ_Tom (I don't worship the State; I don't worship the Environment - I only worship God.)
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To: NJ_Tom

To reply to your earlier post, The flaw in the argument can be found in the structure of the English language. Just as to “immunize” is to make one immune, so is “naturalize” the process that makes one “natural.” Anyone who has been naturalized is accorded all the rights and privileges of a natural citizen. This does not make him a natural-born citizen.
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You understand! A naturalized citizen IS accorded all the rights and priveleges of a natural born citizen except that he cannot run for President as stipulated in the Constitution. A naturalized citizen is not born in this country - not “natural” born - thus ineligible for the office. That is the distinction.

Since as long as I can remember, if you are born in the U.S you get a U.S. birth certificate. That is not naturalization - that is natural born.


244 posted on 05/23/2012 2:05:17 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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