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1 posted on 05/18/2012 2:16:50 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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Salve This is worst much worst, Espanola and Italia are on move. I have warned long ago about this, this is not good. Merci [Romanian native > ESL]
2 posted on 05/18/2012 2:21:56 PM PDT by MCSP2008
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I doubt Greece will voluntarily exit ... they will be pushed out.

“A Greek exit does not mean the end of the euro, as some claim,” he said. “

Wrong. When the first domino falls, the rest will surely fall!


3 posted on 05/18/2012 2:22:59 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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This will cost Merkel the election in Germany.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 2:26:11 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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If the EU is the “United States of Europe” and they can kick out members, can we (the USA) kick out our lib states?


5 posted on 05/18/2012 2:29:47 PM PDT by 1raider1
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60/40 odds that the Greeks wake up on Morning with any remaining deposits denominated in neo-Drachmas where their Euros used to be...and bondholders take an epic haircut.


7 posted on 05/18/2012 2:32:44 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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How soon people forget.

Weimar Germany was an economic basket case with hyperinflation of its fiat (backed by nothing) currency, so a plan was devised to move them to a new, backed by gold currency.

To insulate the new currency, an intermediate currency, also backed by gold and some other commodities, was created. It was not a “common currency”, but just for use by the banks and nations that were Germany’s creditors.

It worked marvelously. The intermediate currency was tightly controlled, so had zero inflation, and it could absorb the hyperinflated currency at a reasoned exchange rate, perhaps a billion to one.

Then once the intermediate currency was stabilized, the new common currency was introduced. Thus Germany went from hyperinflation to no inflation.

Unfortunately, the economic recovery happened just before the Nazis took power. Yet even Hitler did not fiddle with the new currency, and it lasted through WWII, being replaced 1 for 1 by the Deutschmark at the end of the war.

Which lasted until the Euro was introduced.

So what needs to happen to Greece, using this model?

First, an intermediate currency, called, for example, the “Greco”, would be created and controlled by the European Central Bank. It would be backed by both European and Greek commodities, and would only be for use by the banks and the European nations.

It would be tightly controlled by the ECB, which could then sell Greece European market surpluses at a discount, and buy Greek products to sell at a “preferred mark up”. This would do much to balance Greece’s balance sheet.

While this is happening, Greece would print its own, old currency, the Drachma, again. But it would not be exchangeable outside of Greece. So its value would be in keeping local markets and local governments functioning.

And as a “real” currency, Greece could only print as many Drachmas as they could back with taxes. A forced balanced budget. At the same times, Euros in Greece would be worthless. Banks nor major merchants could legally accept them.

Eventually, the Greek economy would find its own balance, while its debts were being reduced. There would no longer be any government largess, only charity.


8 posted on 05/18/2012 2:36:50 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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“...the country’s exit would cost European taxpayers at least €225bn (£180bn).”

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OK, I know the world is upside down, we after all, have an America-hating RaceMarxist as Commander in Chief, but someone please tell me that someone, somewhere is totally pissed off by this.

Not a peep of protest when the Kenyan stuck it to all those GM debtholders.

Maybe I just need to wake up from a bad dream.......


10 posted on 05/18/2012 2:56:12 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but couldn’t Greece hold a flea market sale to sell off its seaports, parks, airports, state-owned telecomm companies, art galleries and museums?

That’s gotta be worth a few hundred billion.

I don’t want to see Greece go under; I like baklava and gyros.


13 posted on 05/18/2012 4:08:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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“A Greek exit does not mean the end of the euro, as some claim,” he said. “

16 posted on 05/18/2012 4:45:59 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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There is no more money to recapitalize anyone. Period.


30 posted on 05/19/2012 2:09:21 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Once the breakup starts, whether it's Spain, Greece, Portugal, whatever, the Germans are going to take over, and this time, without firing a shot.

5.56mm

32 posted on 05/19/2012 2:30:34 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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