[maxwellsmart_agent]

You can make up your own story as you wish, but it is at odds with everything I read in the news. Where does it say that if you have a permit to carry, that you are prohibited to carry while on neighborhood watch? Our neighborhood watch has no such rule, nor does any that I know of.

The news reported that his call was to 911 on several occasions. In fact they have repeatedly reported that he told the 911 operator that he was following the kid and the operator said ‘we don’t need you to do that’.

Zimmerman was heading back to his vehicle when he was approached by Martin. Martin was aggresive and punched Zimmerman in the face and knocked him to the ground. Then Martin jumped on top of him and repeatedly slammed his head into the sidewalk. Zinmmerman’s shirt pulled up in the struggle and the gun became apparent. They both reached for the gun and Martin got the slide and Zimmerman got the handle according to the news.

The gun fired but the next round did not chamber because Martin had ahold of the slide, according to the news account. If I have it wrong, it is because the news got it wrong.

I am passing only what I read in the news as fact. If it is wrong, I am sorry, but I have nothing else to go on.

[ExTxMarine]

You can make up your own story as you wish, but it is at odds with everything I read in the news.
I am not sure what you mean by starting your reply in this fashion. It would seem that you and I agree on just about everything - your account of events are the exact same as the one that I have stated and defended.

The news reported that his call was to 911 on several occasions.
Zimmerman's initial call was to a non-911 number. I do not know if they transferred him to a 911 operator or if he hung up and called back on 911, but the police and the initial news reports stated that Zimmerman's initial contact with the police on the night of this incident was to a non-911 police line.

Where does it say that if you have a permit to carry, that you are prohibited to carry while on neighborhood watch?
I have setup and been apart of several different neighborhood watch programs and every single one had a written set of rules which included that you were NOT allowed to carry a weapon of any sort - including knives. Now, obviously yours does not have this policy, but if you ask the police when they are assisting in developing and setting up a neighborhood watch program, they "highly discourage" carrying of weapons as the POA/HOA/neighborhood could be held liable in an incident, such as this. My statement was based on all of them of which I have been a member and the police literature that you get from the community outreach departs of the police forces with which I have dealt.