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To: AtlasStalled

I was right! Years ago I saw that debate between Obama and Alan Keyes. I mean I saw a clip of it, linked here on FR. Keyes says. Something to the effect that Obama wasn’t born here and Obama says we are talking about senator, nor president. Paraphrased.

I know I saw this but it has been scrubbed off the web and lied about.

We still dont know where he was born, but now we know :

A) he used to BRAG about being from Kenya
And
B) he has serious problems with every American documentation

Conclusions may be met. This is strong circumstantial evidence. I bet he was born in an unwed mothers’ home in British Columbia, still.


273 posted on 05/17/2012 12:58:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Something I just realized.

My uncle and aunt worked as teachers at Punahou( Manoa Valley, Oahu) hi. Most are very wealthy kids or immigrants because they just can't deal with the Hawaiian public schools where their butts would be kicked all over the islands9 i know this for fact). Soooo the immigrants or richie riches get the "Comfy Chair Tx( Monty Python skit) either at Punahou or maybe Montye Vista, Watsonville, Ca or a number of other ritzty porivate schools that have a huge price tag and promise high education( they do) and a BIT more safety than the local "bully' schools. This finally fits, because I could NOT figure for the life of me how he got into a school with a huge waiting list. Immigration status from kanya/Indonesia would put him top of the list.

This makes sense to me, kenyan/Indonesian/Muslime goes to punahou because I've been saying for years now that scrawny shiite would have scars all ovr if he went to a regular hawaiian school, and he'd certainly NOT be unscathed haning out on Waimanalo side! Grrrrrr

779 posted on 05/18/2012 8:29:23 AM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Yaelle

“I was right! Years ago I saw that debate between Obama and Alan Keyes. I mean I saw a clip of it, linked here on FR. =======

You have always been right and don’t let the naysayer’s tell you otherwise. I saw the exchange also on a C-SPAN double header during the primary of 2007/2008.

I believe Keyes was making a point about illegal immigration and was talking about allegiance to America and had finished his well reasoned argument against anchor babies with the comment how that is why per the Constitution we make sure our Commander and Chief of the United States of America is a natural born Citizen because otherwise there would be divided allegiance.

I was so close to actually having my wife record the broadcast because I was running late from work and desired very much to see the whole debate due to my love for Keyes and distain for the “I wont wear that pin on my chest” and no hand or salute for our anthem.

Barry was in defense mode and instead of understanding Keyes point about illegal immigration, thought it was an attack towards him. Looking back now with how narcissistic he is, it makes total sense how Obama thought that. Everything is about hisself.

I just can’t remember which debate it was. I’m leaning towards:

Illinois Senate Debate
Debate - 10/12/2004
Democratic State Senator Obama and former candidate for the Republican presidential nomination Keyes debated in the Old State Capitol for the Illinois senate seat opened by the retirement of Senator Fitzgerald. ...
Person: Alan Keyes, U.S. Senate Candidate, R IL
Person: Barack Obama, U.S. Senate Candidate, D IL

Because I remember vividly how we got to see the behind the scene moments during radio stations breaks with the camera rolling while no one really was talking and just looking over notes, picking noses.

If it wasn’t that one it was the:
Illinois Senate Debate
Debate - 10/21/2004
Candidates for the U.S. Senate from Illinois took part in a debate. The candidates are seeking the position vacated by the planned retirement of Senator Fitzgerald. Mr. Obama is a State Senator and garnered national...
Person: Alan Keyes, U.S. Senate Candidate, R IL
Person: Barack Obama, U.S. Senate Candidate, D IL

Because I remember vividly that they were standing up during the debate.

I know there are really good Freepers here that doubt that it happened and especially one that knew Keyes personally that said it never happened, but you and I know better and there are more of us than you might think. Nobody should waste time looking at C-Span or Youtubes unless they are recently uploaded because unless they have the unedited version, it wont be there. The exchange happened with time allotted well expired and the moderator scolding them.

Obama used the I’m not running for President line because he knew he wasn’t one of us.


809 posted on 05/18/2012 3:05:07 PM PDT by Herbster
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