[lurk]

First, they should match the men in every score, number, measure, exercise, distance, weight and time. There should be no fudging the standards down for women.

Second, why would a woman want to do this?

[2ndDivisionVet]

Pure insanity. Is the military a social program or the protector of our nation?

[Doogle]

..with a washout rate of maybe 60% now..this don’t make any sense

[pawdoggie]

According to Odierno, about 90 percent of senior Army infantry officers have gone to the school and are qualified as Rangers. Allowing women to go to Ranger school, he said, would allow them to be competitive with their male counterparts as they move through the ranks. Sounds like Ray knows which side his bread's buttered on. There may be a few triathlete type women who could make it through Ranger School (assuming allowances were made for field hygiene and sanitation issues, and they doubtless will be), but "allowing women (or one-armed trans-gendered Croats, for that matter) to be competitive with their male counterparts" is not why we have a Ranger School, or a military for that matter.

[pawdoggie]

According to Odierno, about 90 percent of senior Army infantry officers have gone to the school and are qualified as Rangers. Allowing women to go to Ranger school, he said, would allow them to be competitive with their male counterparts as they move through the ranks. Sounds like Ray knows which side his bread's buttered on. There may be a few triathlete type women who could make it through Ranger School (assuming allowances were made for field hygiene and sanitation issues, and they doubtless will be), but "allowing women (or one-armed trans-gendered Croats, for that matter) to be competitive with their male counterparts" is not why we have a Ranger School, or a military for that matter.

[BFM]

BOHICA

[Nifster]

That’s negatory

[coincheck]

This will only work if they completely wussify Ranger School. They will have to lower the standards so much just for the women to pass the physical requirments it would be a joke. Can’t wait to see how they handle the 200’ night rappel. Ranger stakes would be interesting.

[coincheck]

This will only work if they completely wussify Ranger School. They will have to lower the standards so much just for the women to pass the physical requirments it would be a joke. Can’t wait to see how they handle the 200’ night rappel. Ranger stakes would be interesting.

[Dogbert41]

"You have a problem with that?"

[Retain Mike]

Now that the sodomites and lesbians are officially ordained, the Pentagon will never pass up an opportunity to direct the services towards humanist social alchemy and social engineering.

The Ranger sub-culture that ensures victory demands totalitarian mental and physical harshness to overcome their chaotic, barbaric, and brittle environments. The question is not whether women can meet some newly fabricated minimum set of qualifications, but whether they can join the few exceeding the expectations of accomplished combat infantrymen.

My son is a former Marine and my war was with the Brown Water Navy in Vietnam. There will be a terrible price paid. We both discourage anyone who asks about joining the military. Victory and the warrior ethic are no longer important values.

[Theoria]

RLTW.

[AAABEST]

Gen. Raymond Odierno, Army chief of staff, said Wednesday that he's asked senior commanders to provide him with recommendations and a plan this summer...

What pathetic DISGRACE.

[MasterGunner01]

OK, let's say the Army wants to send Suzie Soldier to Ranger School. As I understand it, the Army sends Ranger wannabes to “selection” — a pre-school to see if the wannabe could even compete in Ranger School. If the Army is going to be honest (fat chance) then NO waivers should be granted to any women during the selection pre-school. To do so will just mean they will wash out later in Ranger School. Better to separate out the nonperforming early.

There's another thing at work here that may have missed. The champions of opening up the Rangers to women have coached this in terms of providing jobs. Ah, hello Army brass — the Rangers aren't a jobs program. The Rangers are the tip of the spear; they are combat infantry recon teams. They are given risky combat jobs and there is no place for anyone who cannot do what the job demands. Waivers don't get it done when the bullets and rockets are flying.

The other dirty secret that no one speaks is this: exactly WHO are those championing Ranger School for women? I'll guarantee you that zero enlisted women want to go to Ranger School, but there are a certain number of women officers who want this. Why? Because the Ranger tab is seen as a fast track to promotion in the PC and feminized Army. The problem with this reasoning is the Ranger tab guarantees very dangerous assignments. Nothing interferes with a general officer's career like premature death on a risky mission in combat.

[clamper1797]

Any woman that believes that she has what it takes to be a REAL Ranger or Seal needs to be knocked on their ass ... and it wouldn’t take a real Ranger or Seal to do it

[Jack Hammer]

The ONLY thing that would do is generate a “dumbing down” of the Rangers for the sake of political correctness.

Our armed forces are being ruined for the sake of politicians’ social experiments.

In short, it’s pure BS.

[trebb]

100 men will test today, but only one will win the Green Beret.

10,000 women will test today, all will be GIVEN the Green Beret....

[9YearLurker]

This makes sense to me if there are sensitive female roles for which Ranger-level training is necessary or desirable. I could imagine having a trained native Arabic or Farsi speaking woman or two of Middle Eastern descent could be handy on a mission here or there.

That’s not what I’m hearing them talk about—and talking about what I’m referring to may not be a good idea either.

[Tainan]

Uhhh...NO.

Here's the oath, cupcake.

The Ranger Creed

Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers.

Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster and fight harder than any other soldier.

Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be. One-hundred-percent and then some.

Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well-trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.

Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.

Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.

Rangers Lead The Way!