Voting for Romney (D-Mass.): The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could Make

Political Realities ^ | 7 Apr 12 | LD

[xzins]

Hi Buckeye. Those policy issues are all, of course, real concerns.

I’m not among those who is so fear driven that I think the country will cease to exist. Obama is just a man, he puts on his pants one leg at a time, he needs a teleprompter, and he can’t speak a clear sentence when he’s away from one.

He’s really not all that.

My take is that it’s much more important to build a new home party for conservatives. That is best begun now. The GOP has left us, if it ever was with us.

Please join us. We need you. The GOP-e doesn’t even want you.

[tomkat]

7+Mb is one damned big helping of SPAM

[so_real]

The worst mistake a conservative or anyone else for that matter could make is to act in any way that would count as a vote for oblamer

Huh? That's the worst mistake? I'd say allowing ourselves to be enslaved by socialism as long as the socialist in charge is wearing an "R" pin on his lapel is a considerably larger mistake. It's just plain dumb to be okay with socialism as long as our team gets to pick the socialist-in-chief. Our Founders are spinning in their graves. This is not what they surrendered their heritage, finances, and very lives to build.

[GeronL]

It sure is.

Reality is facing the world in the face right now and many people are learning the wrong lessons from it.

The fact is you cannot tax or spend your way into prosperity, only economic freedom can bring it.

[Jim Robinson]

You know me better than that. I would never recommend anyone vote for Obama.

I would never vote for, support or endorse a person for president whose only government record is that of an abortionist, homosexualist, gun-grabbing, global warming hoax pushing, liberal judge appointing, crony capitalist, mandate loving, big government statist!!

Regardless of party affiliation.

And I sincerely doubt that the good U.S. Army Chaplain and Patriot, Xzins would either.

We are the resistance!!

For God and Country!!

Thank you and God bless.

[Linda Frances]

I will NEVER vote for obama, but I also will not vote for romney. He never reached out to conservatives and said he did not have to, that conservatives will vote for him (arrogant #*@) He not only moved to the center, he pushed obama further left by saying he was ok with gay adoption.

I have a few questions for those who are voting for romney. We all know (and if you don't many of us here can send you proof) that romney, the gop, fox, ann coulter, drudge,.......pushed romney. They helped him cheat, steal, buy votes and endorsements....

Why vote at all? Unless you're a pro-abortion, pro-gay,....person your vote doesn't matter. Your nominee has been chosen for you like it or not. Many people helped pull this off, but they did. Now they EXPECT us to vote as they say. So, why would you vote for a person who cheated you out of a fair vote? Why vote for someone who has lied and is a known liberal? Common sense or wisdom, tell us that a person who says they are against gay marriage, abortion,...then says the opposite later is not to be trusted.

How is lying, cheating, stealing....being pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage/adoption....different than obama? Why should we trust he will be different than obama?

Why in the world are we acting like a battered wife who keeps coming back to the man beating her? Are we suppose to act like the gop, romney,....did nothing wrong and support him?

I am a Christian and praying for a miracle. If we keep moving left with the gop nominees, we will be today's democrats, obeying and following like sheep. At least they get paid for following (welfare....) we get what???

[xzins]

Virgil Goode has not changed his principles at any point in his career. The old conservative democrats died off, and when he voted to impeach Clinton they were livid. He went to the Republicans, and when he spoke out against oaths of office taken on a Koran, against LEGAL immigration for Job reasons, and refused to support the bailouts, they took their support away from him.

So, your understanding of the story is different than mine. Allow me to offer this evidence though: he actually did vote to impeach Clinton; he really is on a video opposing oaths of office with Korans; and he was just one of 65 to oppose the bailouts that BOTH Obama and McCAIN endorsed. AND ROMNEY.

So, who is the conservative? Obama, Romney, or Goode?

Which one do you think?

[so_real]

but I stopped reading once the author said he joined the Libertarian Party

Funny, I almost stopped there too. I'd vote libertarian only to see the heads explode in one of the big two parties when their chosen candidate comes up shy of the libertarian candidate. But I did finish the article regardless.

[ReformationFan]

The Gipper was right. Our nation does not need 2 Democratic parties.

[xzins]

Why in the world are we acting like a battered wife who keeps coming back to the man beating her? Are we suppose to act like the gop, romney,....did nothing wrong and support him?

Absolutely outstanding example, LF. Would love to see you write an article with that idea.

Faith, Sister!

[CharacterCounts]

So was I...so was Reagan.

Comparing the lying piece of socialist trash to President Reagan is beyond the pale.

Your boy isn't fit to polish Reagan's shoes.

[so_real]

Romney's an ass and a statist, but Obama is the worst president we've ever seen. He is on a mission to INTENTIONALLY destroy the nation. Wake up.

Wide awake here. It's simple battlefield strategy. Which opponent is easier to defeat: the one already tagged and well known on the field in front of you, or the Benedict Arnold working in the shadows at your back? Choose your team mates carefully; a Benedict Arnold can inflict more damage than a Sir Henry Clinton.

[jaydee770]

And if one of the Big 2 candidates wins in November, I will wake up on Wednesday morning with a smile, knowing it wasn’t my fault.

Sounds to me like you're rationalizing some way to make yourself feel good about the inevitable. Best of luck to you! I wish I could too, but I hate fooling myself more. I think there is a high probability you will be just as pissed off and disappointed the day after the election as the rest of us will be. There is no happy ending this time regardless of the outcome. Probably for generations.

We are outnumbered by voters and political supporters who want some sort of goodie from the govt (law, reg, funds, etc) - and that includes voters of all political persuasions including dems & repubs. That will not change until we (well, a majority of us) start raising our children to be more self-sufficient from and independant of govt. Perhaps our great-grandchildren will start to turn the tide.

So by your estimation, we can't overcome the GOP via the ballot box; we can't outspend the GOP; the tea-party has flopped; our only hope is some candidate no-one has heard of who polls at %7. In that case, a reasonable and prudent person might rightly surmise we are doomed regardless of what we do.

So, I'm voting for the most viable candidate that opposes Obama. I currently presume that will be the republican candidate, but if you can somehow boost your candidate to the front of the line by then, well I'll certainly vote for him.

[so_real]

NOTHING can be worse that what we have right now.

Nothing, except more of the same. Which was the thrust of the article ... a vote for Romney is a vote for more of the same. The only difference is that socialism will advance under the republican banner instead of the democrat. It will be "our" fault.

[xzins]

I would never vote for Obama and never encourage anyone to do so, except tongue in cheek, of course. However, if folks were to check the record they’d see many overwrought people telling me that I’m actually supporting Obama and voting for Obama.

That’s because I refuse to support Romney, but instead support the only conservative in the race, Virgil Goode.

So far as this author is concerned, he’s libertarian and a Gary Johnson fan, but the first section of this article about the monolithic GOP is excellent. The GOP is impossible to change because of the rules they have written to cover themselves. (See the Virginia primary for an example.)

I agree with that part of the article about the GOP. That’s why I think a new home for conservatives is the right answer. Beyond that, I simply can’t understand any ABO’s tipping their hand to Romney, crawling to him on their knees saying, “we’ll support you no matter what.” I’m sure that will make him take their issues seriously. Heck no. They just admitted he has them over a barrel.

I’d like you to consider the CP, Jim. Like your Free Republic, it is a pro-God, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-small government place. I’m sure they have their dingbats and disrupters who play fast and loose with their principles....they just don’t run them as their presidential candidate.

[CharacterCounts]

A blueprint for an Obama victory, just when it appears Romney is gaining traction against the Bamster.

Nonsense!

Obama is so weak, he should lose in a landslide. If your boy is incapable of sealing the deal against him, it won't be anyone's fault but his own and the GOP elites for selecting a bigger loser than the sophomoric fool currently occupying the White House.

[MCSP2008]

Salve. Yes, Problem is how can you fix a broken engine of a car, if not being realistic and tell owner, this engine is broke, time to bring new one. Who will pay for it? If account is closed. Merci, [Romanian native > ESL]

[so_real]

As bad as Romney may be, he is still better than the current occupier of the white house.

In what sense? He's better at raising taxes (300%)? supporting Cap and Trade? Making gun ownership more difficult? Advancing gay marriage and child adoption by homosexuals? Leaving unborn children subject to murder? Bailing out big companies? Check the record, FRiend, these are all Romney accomplishments. Romney *is* as bad as Obama. The main difference between the two is the "R" next to his name on the ballot.

[Tennessee Nana]

Thanks..

I got the main points from the newspaper...

Romney: Gay couples should have right to adopt

In an interview with Neil Cavuto of Fox Business Network, Romney was asked whether he believes the gay marriage debate is a new civil rights movement, as some Democrats have framed the issue.

“I don’t see it in that light,” Romney responded. “I believe my record as a person who has supported civil rights is strong and powerful. At the same time, I believe that marriage has been defined the same way for literally thousands of years by virtually every civilization in history and that marriage is by its definition a relationship between a man and woman.”

He added that “if two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship, even want to adopt a child — in my state, individuals of the same sex are able to adopt children. In my view, that’s something which people have the right to do, but to call that marriage is, in my view, a departure from the real meaning of the word.”

Romney has made similar statements in the past. In 2006, as governor of Massachusetts, Romney told the Boston Globe that same-sex couples have “a legitimate interest in being able to receive adoptive services.” In 1994, he told the Boston Herald, “I would leave it [gay adoption] up to the states. I would not oppose it or require it.”

Washington Post May 10, 2012

[xzins]

I didn't write the article, Jaydee, but I do think the analysis of the GOP is very interesting.

You wrote: We are outnumbered by voters and political supporters who want some sort of goodie from the govt (law, reg, funds, etc) - and that includes voters of all political persuasions including dems & repubs. That will not change until we (well, a majority of us) start raising our children to be more self-sufficient from and independant of govt. Perhaps our great-grandchildren will start to turn the tide.

Those are all excellent ideas, and I support them. Thanks.

Let me suggest something to you:

If you don't really want Romney, don't tip your hand about supporting him. Otherwise, they know they have you where they want you and they will slide to the left. If you're going to support him, keep it to yourself, be recalcitrant, and insist on conservatism from him. Don't reveal your support until about 30 days out...October. Don't enable them to take you for granted.

Finally, I'd really rather have you help us build a new conservative party, a home for people like us. We want you and need you. They don't....they don't care one whit about you.