To: SaraJohnson
With rights come responsibility. If you are going to exercise your 2nd A rights, you had better know the laws in the jurisdiction you wil be in.
For instance, you CAN NOT carry a firearm into a secure area in a transportation facility (not just airports).
Most gov’t facilities and property are off limits as well, military property is especially limited. Loaded firearms in hunting areas during closed hunting season is verboten in some states. In my state, “gatherings of people, sporting events, and rallies” are areas where you can not exercise your 2nd A right.
It is a PITA, but we do not need to give the anti gun crowd any rope to hang us. We need to follow ALL the rules to the letter until we get those rules rescinded. And it is no accident that many of the gun infractions are felonies, that way you lose your gun rights for life.
16 posted on
05/14/2012 7:34:53 PM PDT by
wrench
To: wrench
With rights come responsibility. If you are going to exercise your 2nd A rights, you had better know the laws in the jurisdiction you wil be in.
I think you missed the point of the previous poster. You've accepted as fact the premise that local jurisdictions can infringe upon the 2nd Amendment, and thus one should know the local laws. The point was made that the local jurisdictions do NOT have that right (if we view the 2nd Amendment with the same eye that the 1st is so often used and abused) and therefore all of these limitations should be considered invalid.
For example, I think we can all agree that if any local jurisdiction were to attempt to make a law making it illegal for someone to voice support for Republicans in public (or any other group), it would be struck down by the court as in violation of the 1st Amendment. Why then do we allow local jurisdiction to infringe on the 2nd Amendment when the 2nd Amendment clearly says that the right to keep and bear arm shall NOT be infringed? Is the 2nd Amendment less of an amendment than the 1st? By accepting the premise that local jurisdictions cannot violate the 1st Amendment but they can violate the 2nd, you are already surrendering your 2nd Amendment rights.
21 posted on
05/14/2012 8:28:47 PM PDT by
fr_freak
To: wrench
we do not need to give the anti gun crowd any rope to hang usThe firearms were unloaded, in cases, locked in the trunk. Most jurisdictions consider that "secured" for transport purposes.
Would stopping for fuel, to urinate, to eat, have constituted "local business"? If so, then there is virtually no way to travel with Arms on the upper East Coast.
If the rules do not permit compliance, then what? How far do we retreat?
What happened to the RKBA and "...shall not be infringed."?
This goes beyond infringement to complete denial.
25 posted on
05/14/2012 11:22:37 PM PDT by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
To: wrench; muawiyah
What part of “shall not be infringed” is unclear?
A right only carries restraints against infringinging on equal or superior rights of other individuals. That’s life, liberty, property.
46 posted on
05/16/2012 5:08:49 AM PDT by
hocndoc
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