More like a lame-suit, than a flame suit. Listen you’re well known for being anti-Mormon, which places everything you say in perspective. You’re lens is fault-finding, so you find fault.
My understanding is that the LDS don’t run Scouting exactly like it is run by other churches mainly due to the fact that they have their Scouting positions as “callings”. That means that their leadership are amateurs who function over a short time window. Most non-LDS troops that I know of have Scout Masters who’ve been doing it for decades.
Actually, your comment just reminded me of a great LDS program calle Eleven Year Old Scouts. It is like a crash course in Scouting that gets kids to First Class Scout in a focused period. They do that because their Scouting program is associated with their Priesthood which is given to young men when they turn 12.
What an unfortunate, yet wholly expected reply.
Sorry to bust your rose colored view of the LDS, but what I say is true. Since you claim I’m only capable of finding fault, let’s take a look at my resume within LDS Scouting circles, shall we?
I’ve been involved as a Scout leader in LDS Scouting numerous times; 2 times as a Scoutmaster, once as an ASM, once as a Cub leader, once as Webelos leader and once as an 11 year old leader. I’ve been a leader in Scouting for over 22 years.
I’m Wood Badge trained, I’ve served as a District Training Chairman and District Trainer, I’m an Associate Lodge Advisor for the Order of the Arrow and a Scoutmaster. I’ve been a Chapter Advisor and an Advisor to the Vice Chief of Inductions (OA).
I’ve conducted over 30 training classes for SM’s/ASM’s and coordinated and planned dozens of others including Cub leaders in the past 4 years.
Wanna know the percentage of LDS leaders that attended training? (<30%)
Wanna know how many LDS units will permit the OA to conduct elections in our District (0)?
Wanna know how many LDS units make it mandatory that new leaders attend even the most basic leader training in our District? (0)
Wanna know how many LDS units take their units out on at least one outing a month? (<10%) Why? They won’t get trained. They like basketball mo’ better, no work involved for the “called” leader.
Wanna know anything?
I’ve staffed Wood Badge courses 3 times, 1 of which was an LDS only course.
Wanna guess how many registered out of an entire Council that has dozens of LDS “units”? 22
Wanna know how many of those were actually direct contact leaders and not there to just to take up some valuable slot because they were of the “privileged” class? (5)
It’s painfully clear that you aren’t capable of handling the truth with regards to the LDS Scouting program, you’re pro-LDS, why should I be surprised?
Sorry that you’re own bias towards those of us who are anti-mormonism prevents you from accepting or even seeing the truth for what it is. I even went and tried to help my own LDS son and his LDS Troop against my better judgement. I “negotiated” with the Bishopric for over 3 hours about what needed to be done and how. I worked with them for 18 months and in the end, they threw those boys under the bus because they didn’t find the “program” palatable.
The LDS failed my son and the other boys in his Troop. I had to transfer our son to a conventional Troop in order to ensure he could attain his goal of Eagle. He had to endure the scorn and ridicule of his fellow church members because he went after his dream. I have 2 other LDS families getting ready to join my Troop right now. But they’re “afraid”.
You even supported many of original assertions with your post, whether you realize it or not.
LDS Scouting is an absolute joke, a danger to the boys in their programs and one that is interminably undermined by their own delude sense of self-importance because they pad the books with ghost registrations and don’t insist on capable, trained and motivated leaders. It’s all a smoke screen.
In that spirit, see ya.