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And I am sure the GOPe and their nominee will embrace this position (no double entendre intended)
1 posted on 05/12/2012 7:44:23 AM PDT by markomalley
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No, we should not celebrate two people who are taking themselves out of he gene pool while publically embracing a lifestyle that will take 25 years off their life span.


113 posted on 05/12/2012 1:34:58 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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No, we should not celebrate two people who are taking themselves out of he gene pool while publically embracing a lifestyle that will take 25 years off their life span.


114 posted on 05/12/2012 1:34:58 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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Jan van Lohuizen, who worked as a pollster for George W. Bush in 2004 ...

Never heard of him.

Is he at the "Lovenstein Institute"?

“People who believe in equality under the law as a fundamental principle, as I do, will agree that this principle extends to gay and lesbian couples; gay and lesbian couples should not face discrimination and their relationship should be protected under the law. People who disagree on the fundamental nature of marriage can agree, at the same time, that gays and lesbians should receive essential rights and protections such as hospital visitation, adoption rights, and health and death benefits.”

Ummmm ... you know that doesn't mean he supports gay marriage, don't you?

115 posted on 05/12/2012 1:48:14 PM PDT by x
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A foreshadowing of Mitt Romney’s Republican Party. Had enough yet?


119 posted on 05/12/2012 2:35:25 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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If they do that, I WILL stay home.


122 posted on 05/12/2012 3:01:48 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead its demise.)
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Homosexuals do not just want gay marriage because they want to get married. The list of “rights” it affords is so minor, it would be totally irrational for anyone to think it is worth this kind of hubbub.

They want the term “marriage” because it fundamentally institutionalizes their relationships as equal to male/female couples in every way and in every aspect of the law, the culture and the society.

The most dangerous aspect to this is probably how “marriage” would now be taught in the schools to the youngest children. After this, by law, any judge would say the schools must now teach that marrying the same sex cannot be spoken about or taught any differently than is marrying someone of the opposite sex. Which means kids would now have to be taught that marriage means you get to enter into a committed relationship with either a male or female, whichever one they choose.

It’s hard to believe this would not fundamentally change a child’s upbringing and make them much more likely to experiment with same-sex attraction and relationships. It’s hard to imagine how a pre-pubescent child, like a boy who thinks girls are “icky” would react. Many children might spend years thinking they’re going to grow up to marry their best same-sex friend and even start showing signs of romantic affection to them.

Certainly all school socials, functions, dances and proms would now have to openly promote and encourage same-sex relationships on an equal footing, just as sexual education classes would. We’ve seen the hints of this kind of indoctrination into the lifestyle show up in education in the most liberal areas. But with same-sex marriage legalized, the almost guaranteed next step is that the courts would order any and all schools to put this type of same-sex relationship education into their curriculum.

For conservatives to think that issue begins and ends at “two people who love each other getting married” would a huge mistake. To not talk about the much broader cultural and legal changes that same-sex marriage would inevitably lead to will probably mean losing on this issue and setting up traditional society for one of the most extreme, unprecedented, and risky changes that has ever taken place in our country.


123 posted on 05/12/2012 3:14:41 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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Fag RINOs? What other deviltry will they bring us?


124 posted on 05/12/2012 3:19:33 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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get george soros OUT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! and all evil for that matter. My God Help us. Fall on your knees and humble yourself before our Lord for the sake of our Nation if for no other reason.


132 posted on 05/12/2012 3:51:29 PM PDT by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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From Politico. What a shock.

This guy has his own polling firm in Houston. Anyone ever heard of him before?

Does anyone give a damn what he might think?

Doubt it....


133 posted on 05/12/2012 3:53:30 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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Turns out this pollster has been pushing this since at least July 2011. A previous “memo” he sent is linked below.

“The remarkable surge over the last two years can’t be explained by generational change alone. It suggests that people across the political spectrum are rethinking their
positions—and deciding in favor of the freedom to marry.” Republican pollster Dr. Jan van Lohuizen, July 2011

A solid and rapidly diversifying majority of the American public now supports the freedom to marry.

2011 analysis of six national polls conducted by Joel Benenson, President of Benenson Strategy Group and lead pollster to President Barack Obama, and Dr. Jan van Lohuizen, President of Voter Consumer Research and former pollster to President George W. Bush.

http://freemarry.3cdn.net/5ae85613318ade1b2e_8dm6bnq72.pdf


135 posted on 05/12/2012 3:57:50 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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LOL, more for his resume...leading RINO pollster.

http://mittromneycentral.com/2007/04/09/washpost-romneys-inner-circle/

WashPost: Romney’s Inner Circle

Jan van Lohuizen: If you don’t know who van Lohuizen is, that’s just how he likes it. One of the lowest-profile pollsters in politics, van Lohuizen is also one of the most highly regarded. He was a key member of the Bush polling team in 2004 and has had a hand in any number of major GOP victories, including victories by Govs. Charlie Crist (R-Fla.) and Arnold Schwarzenegger’s (R-Calif.) last November.


138 posted on 05/12/2012 4:08:57 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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A pollster named Jan huh ? I’m done .


141 posted on 05/12/2012 5:44:42 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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Time to fire gay pollsters.


142 posted on 05/12/2012 5:46:33 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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They are starting to believe their own bullshit.


156 posted on 05/13/2012 2:04:27 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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If it is true that homosexual “marriage” is gaining popularity, it isn’t that surprising. Media, corporate America, government and government schools promote the homosexual agenda, and they have been doing it for as long as I can remember - at least 20 years.

Self-styled homosexuals have the same freedom as the rest of us, to marry a person of the opposite sex.

The most sympathetic and loving thing we can do for homosexuals is to pray that they turn away from a very destructive lifestyle.

State level marriage laws and DOMA are important but social conservatives (I am one) need to realize that whatever moral authority we claim to have on this issue is badly undermined by our high divorce rates, no-fault divorce, fast-track divorce, and the power of the “family” law courts and attorneys in divorce and child custody. If there is a conservative movement to reform this system, to make divorce more difficult, I am not aware of it.


158 posted on 05/13/2012 8:50:21 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: markomalley
How's this... No.

Not just no, but hell no.

Freedom OF Religion doesn't mean the government can come in and start telling the faithful what to believe.

This is why I have been insistent over the years that Marriage stay a RELIGIOUS sacrament and that secular government have no say in it. Either for, or against.

Because when it comes right down to it, when you allow government to license your marriage, you opened yourself up to exactly this.

Once again, I was right. Some folks here need to come to terms with that.

168 posted on 05/15/2012 5:45:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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