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To: Spaulding
Obama was born a British Subject. He told us he was a 14th Amendment, a naturalized citizen. To be president, according to Bingham, Chief Justice Waite, Chief Justice Marshall, and Chief Justice Hughes, in 1939, citing the difference between a native-born citizen with alien parents and one with citizen parents, determined that Marie Elg was a natural born citizen, not just a native-born citizen, because her parents had naturalized before she was born in New York.

Obama is not even a 14th amendment citizen as the Supreme Court defined it in Wong Kim Ark. To satisfy the subject clause, one needs to be born to resident aliens. Obama Sr. was never a resident alien and his wife could NOT be because of the law of nations, as quoted by Justice Story in Shanks v. Dupont:

The incapacities of femes covert provided by the common law apply to their civil rights, and are for their protection and interest. But they do not reach their political rights nor prevent their acquiring or losing a national character. These political rights do not stand upon the mere doctrines of municipal law, applicable to ordinary transactions, but stand upon the more general principles of the law of nations.

The political rights (such as losing national character) of married women (and children) do NOT stand upon municipal law, but stand on the principles of the Law of Nations. At best, the only thing Obama can claim is statutory citizenship through the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.

63 posted on 05/08/2012 7:29:47 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
"Obama is not even a 14th amendment citizen as the Supreme Court defined it in Wong Kim Ark. To satisfy the subject clause, one needs to be born to resident aliens. Obama Sr. was never a resident alien and his wife could NOT be because of the law of nations, as quoted by Justice Story in Shanks v. Dupont:"

It is always reassuring to hear from people who know more than I do, people from whom I can learn. It has been a great fortune in life to have worked with many brilliant people, but I'm discovering, even here at FR, where you don't know whether people have Nobel prizes or Field's medals (mathematics), that those with really keen minds get involved only when they have something to offer. It is an unprovable observation that people on the left need to assert their presumed intellectual superiority. Conservatives seem to have less need for such assertions, and only become involved politically when individual freedoms are being threatened, as they certainly are today.

Conservatives sometimes feel a need to correct blatantly erroneous claims, though many, like Milton Friedman, know that the market will correct nonsense because citizens are smart, and will discover a scam which is impinging on profitablity Usually, such nonsense is so common a phenomenon from the media that it isn't worth the effort, such as articles appearing on FR from time-to-time warning about picocuries of some radioactive isotope discovered after the Fukushima accident. Anyone measuring picocuries of a short half-life isotope is most likely measuring medical waste washed down sinks, or from the urine of patients. The objective is to scare people from a technology essential to free enterprise, particularly an energy source which offers no possibility for collecting carbon credits to profit government crooks and cronies, or, in these times, a technology in competition with the petroleum funding the activities of Kerry's Muslim Brotherhood.

Thanks Edge919. Now I need to read the 1952 act, just when PJ (Political Junkie)has made me pay attention to Thomas Paine. I'm sure Obama’s crew will find more obscure and irrelevant citations which we may feel a need to invalidate, but affirmative explanations from those who established our Constitution and Code are much clearer, and more rewarding. Wrong decision and sloppy construction have been a surprise and lesson to this non-lawyer. I had no idea the legal establishment could be so careless.

My latest realization is the extent to which slightly edited, supposedly original case documents, have been appearing on the Internet. It will now take a visit to our neighborhood law library to check on some of the citations being published on presumed legal blogs; when a claim by an Obama supporter is inconsistent with Justice Waite, or Marshall, or Tom Paine, or Franklin, corrupt practitioners are probably at work. It isn't just ‘justia.com’ and Cornell Law.

We have not just an ‘Obama media’ but an ‘Obama judiciary’ and ‘Obama law schools’ to contend with. Soros didn't just penetrate elections for secretaries of state, his Center For American Progress has been in most every major law school, sponsoring colloquia, making connections, for who knows how long, but it began as early as Soros’ legal assistance to McCain during lawsuits questioning his eligibility in 2003-2006, through McCain's defense by Kirkland and Ellis. Obama’s name may be on the masthead, but the political planning began years before. Perhaps someone from ‘the inside’ will reveal the truth some day.

John Brennan, former deputy CIA director's shepherding and protection of Obama, which continues today, is part of a larger plan. John Kerry is negotiating with the Muslim Brotherhood, Brennan is an Arabist, Kerry with Theresa funded Science Adviser Holdren’s move from Berkeley to Cambridge, and the Marxist Science Policy Institute at the Kennedy School. David Horowitz needs to make those connections clearer; after all, Holdren worked at Horowitz’ Marxist Journal, Ramparts, during the 70s and 80s. Its all of the same cloth.

68 posted on 05/08/2012 8:59:01 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: edge919
"Obama is not even a 14th amendment citizen as the Supreme Court defined it in Wong Kim Ark. To satisfy the subject clause, one needs to be born to resident aliens. Obama Sr. was never a resident alien and his wife could NOT be because of the law of nations, as quoted by Justice Story in Shanks v. Dupont:"

It is always reassuring to hear from people who know more than I do, people from whom I can learn. It has been a great fortune in life to have worked with many brilliant people, but I'm discovering, even here at FR, where you don't know whether people have Nobel prizes or Field's medals (mathematics), that those with really keen minds get involved only when they have something to offer. It is an unprovable observation that people on the left need to assert their presumed intellectual superiority. Conservatives seem to have less need for such assertions, and only become involved politically when individual freedoms are being threatened, as they certainly are today.

Conservatives sometimes feel a need to correct blatantly erroneous claims, though many, like Milton Friedman, know that the market will correct nonsense because citizens are smart, and will discover a scam which is impinging on profitablity Usually, such nonsense is so common a phenomenon from the media that it isn't worth the effort, such as articles appearing on FR from time-to-time warning about picocuries of some radioactive isotope discovered after the Fukushima accident. Anyone measuring picocuries of a short half-life isotope is most likely measuring medical waste washed down sinks, or from the urine of patients. The objective is to scare people from a technology essential to free enterprise, particularly an energy source which offers no possibility for collecting carbon credits to profit government crooks and cronies, or, in these times, a technology in competition with the petroleum funding the activities of Kerry's Muslim Brotherhood.

Thanks Edge919. Now I need to read the 1952 act, just when PJ (Political Junkie)has made me pay attention to Thomas Paine. I'm sure Obama’s crew will find more obscure and irrelevant citations which we may feel a need to invalidate, but affirmative explanations from those who established our Constitution and Code are much clearer, and more rewarding. Wrong decision and sloppy construction have been a surprise and lesson to this non-lawyer. I had no idea the legal establishment could be so careless.

My latest realization is the extent to which slightly edited, supposedly original case documents, have been appearing on the Internet. It will now take a visit to our neighborhood law library to check on some of the citations being published on presumed legal blogs; when a claim by an Obama supporter is inconsistent with Justice Waite, or Marshall, or Tom Paine, or Franklin, corrupt practitioners are probably at work. It isn't just ‘justia.com’ and Cornell Law.

We have not just an ‘Obama media’ but an ‘Obama judiciary’ and ‘Obama law schools’ to contend with. Soros didn't just penetrate elections for secretaries of state, his Center For American Progress has been in most every major law school, sponsoring colloquia, making connections, for who knows how long, but it began as early as Soros’ legal assistance to McCain during lawsuits questioning his eligibility in 2003-2006, through McCain's defense by Kirkland and Ellis. Obama’s name may be on the masthead, but the political planning began years before. Perhaps someone from ‘the inside’ will reveal the truth some day.

John Brennan, former deputy CIA director's shepherding and protection of Obama, which continues today, is part of a larger plan. John Kerry is negotiating with the Muslim Brotherhood, Brennan is an Arabist, Kerry with Theresa funded Science Adviser Holdren’s move from Berkeley to Cambridge, and the Marxist Science Policy Institute at the Kennedy School. David Horowitz needs to make those connections clearer; after all, Holdren worked at Horowitz’ Marxist Journal, Ramparts, during the 70s and 80s. Its all of the same cloth.

69 posted on 05/08/2012 8:59:32 PM PDT by Spaulding
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