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The many views posted here is why the GOP can’t get any ‘blue collar’ support and gives rise to the ‘occupy movement’. When I saw the mentality to promote slave wages it made me look to the DFL for help but I can’t go there, it’s too far left. There must be a strong middle class if sustained economic stability is ever to return to this country. Paying $25/hr with 20 years seniority is not out of line. To propose paying these same workers half wages doesn’t cut it. Greed is what destroyed capitalism and until the common working man is shown respect it will continue its downward spiral.

Question 1: Economically speaking, which states are doing better Right-to-work or non-right-to-work?

Question 2: If non-union employers are so terrible, then why do they still have employees?

Question 3: Where is it deemed you have a God given right to an employer provided pension and you are not responsible to plan for your own future?

Question 4: If year after year new employees are added to the retiree pool and are drawing a pension, how can a company be expected to maintain profitability even in a down economy? (in other words how can they be expected to expand in order to pay all workers and retirees: see GM and what remains of United Steel)

Question 5: You mention "greed" as what is destroying capitalism, yet use the "working man's" need for a larger paycheck because the company is more profitable and was able to pay the CEO more as justification. Do you see the irony?

Question 6: How wise is it to walk off of a job in a down economy with actual unemployment over 16% nationwide?

Question 7: Given your statement - Greed is what destroyed capitalism and until the common working man is shown respect it will continue its downward spiral. How is 0bama working out for you? Need I remind you "Teamsters for 0bama," "SEIU for 0bama," and "United Steel for 0bama."

Question 8: How are things in the trucking, steel, and service industries?

Question 9: As far as greed is concerned how do you explain the UAW being paid off through the bailouts of GM and Daimler-Chrysler, while the bondholders (that actually invested in and financed those copanies) were left SOL?

Question 10: Detroit is/was arguably one of the most unionized cities in America, how are things there? I hear that everything is so peaches and cream, you can buy houses buy-one-get-one-free for about the cost of a second-hand VCR.

Extra Credit: What is conservative about using thug tactics to bully employers into unprofitable wage relationships and in effect artificially increasing final product prices (hindering the company's standing against copetitors); versus allowing the free market to decide?

47 posted on 05/07/2012 2:56:34 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

Bkmk and Bttt


50 posted on 05/07/2012 3:53:53 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Repeat Offender

I’m not pro-union, this is not a union issue to me, its about paying an honest wage for honest work, wages for building heavy equipment is worth more than $12.50 /hr. Remember when in Japan the highest paid in the company was making 20 times more than the lowest wage. Everyone worked together for the good of the company as it should be. But when greed overcomes, there is no unity, only slaves and fat cats. Yes unions and the Democratic left killed Detroit. You see, you can’t have one extreme or the other, there must be balance.


59 posted on 05/07/2012 5:07:40 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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