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Eliot Spitzer is the former governor of the state of New York.
1 posted on 05/06/2012 9:27:53 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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The founders of the Soviet Union would like Obamacare — but not America’s foudners. What a maroon and a man of low repute!


25 posted on 05/06/2012 10:37:52 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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Spitzer says: The Supreme Court justices think they’re channelling the founding fathers. But only I can channel the founding fathers.

Someone give this parasite a voucher so he can get laid, please. Everything’s backed up and clogging the arteries to his brain.


26 posted on 05/06/2012 10:41:24 AM PDT by DPMD
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Anybody who pays 3k for a piece of a$$, can’t be too bright.


27 posted on 05/06/2012 10:43:31 AM PDT by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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Spitzer: Founders would like Obamacare

Splitzer is so monumentally stupid, no wonder he had to pay hookers 4K to jump in the sack with him. WADDAPUTZ

28 posted on 05/06/2012 10:44:45 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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This rag has a circulation of 42,000.


29 posted on 05/06/2012 10:45:05 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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It is amazing how quickly a liberal can be "rehabilitated" to the point of being given TV shows and having their opinions published.

He was given a pass for two federal crimes associated with his procurement of high priced prostitutes.

It has become a new trend for small farms to be prosecuted for bundling payments in an attempt to avoid filling out paperwork. Spitzer bundled payments to avoid scrutiny of what his money was paying for. Additionally he was guilty of transporting women across state lines for the purpose of prostitution. That is one of the longest standing human trafficking laws in this country, but remember it is Republicans that are waging a war on women.

30 posted on 05/06/2012 10:48:13 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Spitzer another POS lawyer who should have assumed room temperature years ago.

Whatever university ed-ju-ma-kated this moron must never have covered the Federalist Papers.

If Elliot had EARNED his law degree he should have known of the Owner’s Manual for the Constitution but like most lying liberals they can never admit these documents exist as they would tend to disprove everything these communists try to sneak by us. The university he attended should be investigated for failing to provide a proper education.


31 posted on 05/06/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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Eliot Spitzer is the former governor of the state of New York.

That's really a he** of a thing to say about all those nice folks in New York state.

However, this little bit just proves that Client Number 9 can't preach politics any better than he can pick a date.

Stick a fork in him.

He's done.

36 posted on 05/06/2012 1:19:36 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((257 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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If his arguments are so good, why didn’t they voice them before the court? If the laws he cites are so applicable, why not? Whatever happened to these laws? Were they repealed? Did the court strike them down?


38 posted on 05/06/2012 2:27:11 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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The Left is still working to paint the Constitution as Outdated and no longer germane...
Why? because its always in their way


40 posted on 05/06/2012 4:28:40 PM PDT by quagmier (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. Walter Scott Hudson)
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Eliot only was trying to enhance his Democrap Resume!

How did his wife feel about his hooker activities? To the people of New York, it probably didn't matter.
42 posted on 05/06/2012 6:58:24 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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I bet Ashley Dupre is all for ObamaCare.


43 posted on 05/06/2012 7:01:25 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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" I believe the premise of their argument is itself suspect: It is not clear how much weight should be given to non-textually based intent that is practically impossible to discern more than 200 years later. Most of the issues over which there is constitutional dispute today could not even have been envisioned when the document was drafted."

America's Founders understood human nature well enough and were wise enough to form a Constitution based on enduring principles for the protection of Creator-endowed individual liberty. It was as Justice Story wrote in his "Commentaries on the Constitution . . . ,"
"The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its compartments are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order; and its defences are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them."

Sadly, Spitzer's comments here reflect his own inadequacy to grasp the long view of history, his apparent lack of study of civilization's struggles to overcome tyranny and the remarkable nature of his own nation's Constitution. Else, how could he make such uninformed remarks about the Constitution and Constitutional interpretation?

Fortunately, a man long recognized as a true American statesman and intellectual held a different view on the manner in which the Constitution should be approached.

In "When Jefferson Dined Alone," Professor Jonathon Gross of DePaul University (Steerforth Press, May 2006) wrote: "At a gathering of 49 Nobel Prize recipients at the White House on April 29, 1962, John F. Kennedy noted that never before had such talent been assembled in one room, except, perhaps, when Thomas Jefferson dined alone." Read more about Jefferson.

The point of telling that story is that it was none other than Thomas Jefferson who said:

"On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

"Until the people have, by some solemn and authoritative act, annulled or changed the established form, it is binding upon them collectively, as well as individually; and no presumption or even knowledge of their sentiments, can warrant their representatives [the executive, judiciary, or legislature]; in a departure from it prior to such an act." - Alexander Hamilton

In the first of the eighty-five "Federalist Papers," Alexander Hamilton emphasized that:

"... it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection or choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force."

The Framers knew that the passage of time would surely disclose imperfections or inadequacies in the Constitution, but these were to be repaired or remedied by formal amendment, not by legislative action or judicial construction (or reconstruction). Hamilton (in The Federalist No. 78) was emphatic about this:

"Until the people have, by some solemn and authoritative act, annulled or changed the established form, it is binding upon them collectively, as well as individually; and no presumption, or even knowledge of their sentiments, can warrant their representatives in a departure from it prior to such an act."

Mr. Spitzer, there are volumes of writings from America's first 50-100 years which refute your theory that the Founders could not "even have envisioned" the kinds of "problems," or intrusions on liberty we face today. In their wisdom, they did, in fact envision such things.

44 posted on 05/06/2012 8:57:26 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Poor Eliot. He’s too lazy to actually read the text of the Second Militia Act of 1792 to see what Congress passed and Washington signed.

“...each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia,...”

So, first of all it applied to every male of a certain age, not every living being.

“...every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock,...”

So, each male was to “provide himself.” There was no mandate to buy anything. Real brilliant reasoning there Spitz.


45 posted on 05/06/2012 9:58:52 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Spitzer, take your Spitz and find a Honey, you loathsome jerk. No one gives a care what you think or say. Now go away.


46 posted on 05/06/2012 10:08:36 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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Elliot, no government is going to dictate to me what I am going to buy.

Now STFU.

I have had enough! Big Government is Going Down. Peacefully I hope this November.


47 posted on 05/06/2012 10:12:29 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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Dear Wh_ _ _ No. 9: Every town in the state was given a format for taking care of the poor and troubled. I have an 1850 book for NYS with all the LOCAL rules.

And our old deeds say "Free and Independent". It's called States Rights.

48 posted on 05/08/2012 7:15:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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