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To: Colofornian

Who the hell are Virgil Goode and Tom H.? Who are people writing in? What are their chances of winning? We pushed for better candidates; we didn’t get it. If people with actual name recognition didn’t make it against Romney, what chance do those folks you mentioned have? Zero.

Is it really a revelation to you that, as of now, “ABO = Romney”?

That’s pretty sad.


1,218 posted on 05/08/2012 9:27:10 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Virgil Goode is the Constitutional Party candidate. From things I have heard, he is pretty solid, but is going to suffer from third party syndrome regardless.

Tom H - no clue. First I have heard of him too.


1,219 posted on 05/08/2012 9:31:23 AM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: Future Snake Eater; EnglishCon; Colofornian

Tom H. is Tom Hoefling, which is me.


1,227 posted on 05/08/2012 9:56:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism: The blind leading the blind, over a cliff, into the political abyss.)
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To: Future Snake Eater; SeekAndFind; Seizethecarp
Who the hell are Virgil Goode and Tom H.?

Virgil is a former VA rep...Constitution Party

Tom H. = Tom Hoefling, a FREEPER [Eternal Vigilance] Tom Hoefling for President

What are their chances of winning?

#1 You know, "chances" is a horseracing term...where they pay not only the winners, but to place as a runner-up (& if 8 or more horses, to "show" as well)...Unfortunately, for POTUS, there is no partial salvation in finishing as "runner-up." The 2nd-place finisher's vote counted for no more than the 3rd or 4th-place finisher.

While the race is certainly "wide open" now...(For example, Seek and Find posted this thread this a.m.: Rasmussen: Three-Way Race: Romney 44%, Obama 39%, Ron Paul 13%)...

So...given a...
...a Ron Paul third-party entry...
...coupled with more voters abandoning the GoP for other waters (Goode/Hoefling)
...coupled with the MSM expose' of Romney & Mormonism for 6 months straight...
...= a "formula" where I believe Romney will be WAY down in the polls come late October [unless the economy tanks even more significantly!]

Therefore, the Q isn't "What is a third party chance of winning?" as of May, 2012...
...Rather, it's "What are Romney's chances of winning?" as of late October/early Nov???

If his chances THEN are slim, all the more reason to vote third-party even for among the Romney voters and Romney supporters (converts).

#2 If you total ALL the FREEPER votes in states like NY, NJ, CA, OR, WA, IL, & other liberal states, even if 100% of FREEPERS voted for Romney in those states, Romney wouldn't win...

Think about that FREEPERS...Don't vote for Romney if you're NOT in a swing state!

We should start a movement that sweeps the nation whereby we advocate that as many as possible GoP voters in liberal states abandon Romney! [To send a message to the GoP-e]

Also, if FREEPERS exist in states in which Romney will win easily, their vote is unnecessary as well. (It won't make a difference)

Is it really a revelation to you that, as of now, “ABO = Romney”? That’s pretty sad.

Well, thank you for reinforcing my point. I clearly told Seize the Carp that "ABO" is a euphemism for Romney voters AND Romney supporters AND Rombots...and he didn't seem to agree that Romney voters and Romney supporters and Rombots would all (as 3 separate groups) seek to find FR "safe haven" under the umbrella of "ABO." [Note his response: Your ad hominem attack on my choice of words and your insinuation that I am a Romney “supporter” or “Rombot”..."]

So there ya go, FSE...there's at least a partial denial even NOW from STC that it's a euphemism for (some of?) those 3 groups!

1,240 posted on 05/08/2012 10:59:19 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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