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Are you an ABO like me PO'd at JR for getting called a RINO? Truce declared! Please DONATE!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879805/posts?q=1&;page=1#1 ^ | May 6, 2012 | Seizethecarp

Posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Attention "Anyone But Obama" (ABO) FReepers! If you go to the thread at the link you will will see that JimRob has "declared a truce" and hundreds of ABO FReepers are now vigorously defending their belief, which I share, that the ineligible Marxist Manchurian MUST BE DEFEATED to preserve the Republic...without fear of "the ZOT"! Please consider a DONATION not just to fund renewal of expression and amplification of your ABO views, but let's over-achieve this FReepathon to get JR his new equipment!

IMO, Free Republic and FReepers could be vital in swing states in rallying just enough conservatives to tip the election and prevent our troops from having to salute for even one day longer than necessary an ineligible Marxist committed to destroying the USA !


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To: eastforker

No, but maybe you need a lesson in anti-bigotry.

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Not nearly as much as you do.


441 posted on 05/06/2012 5:32:01 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Lazamataz

This is insane.


442 posted on 05/06/2012 5:33:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: eastforker
"Someone up thread said they considered Joseph Smith A con Man."

We can more than "consider" him con-man. He was a con-man. A grifter. Here's some testimony under oath at trial:

"Josiah Stowell, a Mormonite, being sworn, testified that he positively knew that said Smith never had lied to, or deceived him, and did not believe he ever tried to deceive any body else. The following questions were then asked him, to which he made the replies annexed.

Did Smith ever tell you there was money hid in a certain glass which he mentioned?

Yes.

Did he tell you, you could find it by digging?

Yes.

Did you dig?

Yes.

Did you find any money?

No.

Did he not lie to you then, and deceive you?

No! the money was there, but we did not get quite to it!

How do you know it was there?

Smith said it was!

Addison Austin was next called upon, who testified, that at the very same time that Stowell was digging for money, he, Austin, was in company with said Smith alone, and asked him to tell him honestly whether he could see this money or not.

[Joseph] Smith hesitated some time, but finally replied, "to be candid, between you and me, I cannot, any more than you or any body else; but any way to get a living."

Here, then, we have his own confession, that he was a vile, dishonest impostor.

As regards the testimony of Josiah Stowell, it needs no comment. He swears positively that Smith did not lie to him. So much for a Mormon witness."

http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1877Purp.htm

443 posted on 05/06/2012 5:33:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: eastforker
Leftists (or those who use leftist tactics) are especially fond of using the word "bigot" or other derisive words when they are struggling in an argument.

It's often referred to as an ad hominem attack.

444 posted on 05/06/2012 5:33:42 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: Secret Agent Man

Secret Agent Man to NoLibZone

“There are Messianic Jews that believe Jesus is their messiah, but do not call themselves specifically Christians or belong to any church bodies.”

Will non Messianic Jews that don’t become Christians , go to Heaven?


445 posted on 05/06/2012 5:34:26 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on 2012 pick.)
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To: Lazamataz

Gee Laz, words are supposed to mean something, I haven’t seen anything resembling a truce, Have you??


446 posted on 05/06/2012 5:35:56 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: eastforker

You’re the longer timer here. I know you to be a good and mature man. Lead by example. Swallow some garbage comments, and let it go — and don’t be provoked on other threads.


447 posted on 05/06/2012 5:38:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Within Buddhism, there are three levels of practitioner.

Practitioners of Initial Scope hope to improve their lot in this and future rebirths through the practice of the fundamental Hinayana teachings that Buddha Shakyamuni taught to all comers 2500 years ago. Though such practitioners may suffer less, they are still reborn into suffering in the endless cycle of rebirths.

Practitioners of Intermediate Scope have a broader goal. They practice the Hinayana teachings as well, but with a greater aspiration: to attain Nirvana, permanently free from suffering in endless uncontrolled rebirths.

Practitioners of Great Scope follow the Mahayana teachings that Buddha gave to some of his advanced students, and which surfaced more generally over the next thousand years as people became ready for them in cultures ripened by the Hinayana. The Mahayana teaches a more profoundly liberating understanding of reality, and also sets the aspiration of the practitioner beyond personal liberation from suffering. The aspiration is not solitary Nirvana, but to become a Bodhisattva, one who has renounced their own liberation from suffering until they have helped to save everyone else first. Standing at the door to Enlightenment, they vow not to go through it until every other being is first saved, and they work tirelessly towards that goal.

The Buddhism of Tibet is Mahayana Buddhism, but also mixed with Buddhist Tantric practices that came from the great monasteries of northern India in the second half of the first millennium AD. A Bodhisattva aspires to help others, but they can really only do so much because they lack the wisdom and power of an actual Buddha. A Bodhisattva, after eons of Mahayana practices, can become a Buddha, and thereby more definitively end the suffering of others, but some people are more strongly motivated to end others’ suffering as quickly as possible, not after eons. To fulfill this aspiration, they practice the incredibly powerful Vajrayana, harnessing the most powerful energies humans have at their disposal, and transforming the power of these energies through Tantric practices. Using such fuel and technology, many attain Buddhahood within a lifetime or two.

For most people who practice a religion at all, their aspirations rarely venture beyond the Hinayana scope at best. Hindus sometimes use Tantric techniques, but at best this is usually in a quest for personal liberation only. Christianity, with the exception of a few of the saints, goes no further (sorry, folks) than a type of Buddhism called Pure Land Buddhism (using deeds and faith to get oneself into a Heaven overseen by a Buddha). This is a branch, supposedly, of Mahayana Buddhism, but with only a rather weak nod to the Mahayana goal of becoming a Bodhisattva oneself.

Within the four sects of Tibetan Buddhism - all of which still beat everything else hands down - I believe the Gelugpa to be the best. It is a reform movement with an emphasis on virtuous behavior, such that it retains the power of the best practices of the other sects, while avoiding questionable practices and attitudes (which have occurred historically) that might bring dishonor upon Buddhism, especially in the modern world.


448 posted on 05/06/2012 5:39:22 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: A.Hun

I would like to offer my sincere THANK
YOU for posting all of this. Shame on me for not researching this before now, I relied upon the good conservatives here and elsewhere, telling me that Romney was this or that, that Romney was pushing abortion and gay marriage.

What really opened my eyes, abortion rates in MA fell after Romneycare. From what I’ve read and heard from conservatives who will not vote for Romney, the opposite should have been true.

Thank you. And shame on me for not doing my homework.


449 posted on 05/06/2012 5:39:50 PM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: eastforker; Lazamataz

If you mean I won’t kill you anymore but the beatings will continue, well then I guess you can call it truce!


450 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:11 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

That post had nothing to do with Jews.

Linking a post about the Mormon religion with Jewish folks makes no sense.

The post has to do with a religion you feel is not Christian and whose members shall not be allowed entry into Heavan.

Will other non Christians also be denied entry into Heaven?

Such as Jews in Isreal and around the world?


451 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:54 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on 2012 pick.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

That post had nothing to do with Jews.

Linking a post about the Mormon religion with Jewish folks makes no sense.

The post has to do with a religion you feel is not Christian and whose members shall not be allowed entry into Heavan.

Will other non Christians also be denied entry into Heaven?

Such as Jews in Isreal and around the world?


452 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on 2012 pick.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
No, the Rich Man is not immediately judged. That happens much later in time. Until then he's just there ~ somewhere ~ no Heaven until the definitive Final Judgment.

RIght?

Now, regarding your statement "It is clear we only get one life, no reincarnation" we do get eternal life after some degree of rigamarole. Isn't that Jesus' promise?

Antecedent to that we get one life, but there's actually not a lot of discussion on that matter in the Bible ~ a few statements here and there ~ some threats ~ it's pretty barebones stuff and very consistent with Middle Eastern religions, if not older Indo-European religions (warriors die and go to the elysian fields, heros cross the byfrost bridge into eternal combat under the close watch of the gods, that sort of thing with the Greeks and Persians).

Jesus told the thief "You are in Paradise this very day". Hmm. Elsewhere John of Revelation tells us all about that ~ dead in the earth waiting ~ no instant trip to Paradise.

453 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CatherineofAragon

Irritable? Nope. Just pointing out the facts, ma’am. Go bait someone else. I won’t be your huckleberry.


454 posted on 05/06/2012 5:41:18 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lazamataz; eastforker

Why are you copying me? I ceased posting a long time ago.

I do see a lot of vile hateful comments which continue to be posted.


455 posted on 05/06/2012 5:43:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dalereed
If jackasses like you keep up your one letter abbreviations I'm going to cancel my $35/month donation


456 posted on 05/06/2012 5:43:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: driftdiver

Sorry. I did see you upthread. If you stopped, and you have, good on you.


457 posted on 05/06/2012 5:45:18 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m your huckleberry. That’s JUST my game.


458 posted on 05/06/2012 5:46:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: swpa_mom

In my opinion Romney is a politicians politician. As such he will follow the wind to get what his major supporters want. The key is to find an angle on him and get the right people in the Cabinet.


459 posted on 05/06/2012 5:47:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: eastforker

Again: I know you to be a good and mature man. Lead by example. Swallow some garbage comments, and let it go — and don’t be provoked on other threads


460 posted on 05/06/2012 5:48:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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