[altura]

I honestly don’t know if a candidate should get very deeply into that right now.

There is such visceral hatred among many conservatives for illegals that almost spreads over onto all hispanics.

Perry’s very mild attempts to justify doing something that was actually very minor for children of illegals... i.e. allowing them to pay instate tuition ... was a turnoff for so many people.

No matter how we explained that it was not free tuition, that there were many criteria that had to be met before the kids were eligible... that it might have an ultimate benefit by turning those kids into tax paying citizens.

Nothing could overcome the automatic hatred and the sentiment for doing nothing, nothing nice for the childrenof illegals.

So, I would just shut up about it and do it quietly.

Because many people DO NOT have a heart when it comes to children of illegals.

We don’t punish children of rapists or murderers or children of people in prison for various crimes but we want to punish children whose parents crime was coming here illegally.

This is not to say in any way that I like illegal immigration. I don’t.

It should be stopped at the border.

[Miss Marple]

You can blame a large portion of that anti-immigrant feeling on Michelle Malkin. She was absolutely viscious about Perry, and I won’t forget it.

People need to quit letting conservative pundits and talk-show hosts control the message.

[chiller]

... allowing them to pay instate tuition ... was a turnoff for so many people.

You've got that one right....it still bothers me, no end, although I'm ignorant as to dollar amounts and how significant or insignificant. To think of stressed taxpayers paying the way to university --- most of which are swimming in cash, over-charging, delivering poor value, stupid curricula ---chaps me.

[Bernard]

Perry’s very mild attempts to justify doing something that was actually very minor for children of illegals... i.e. allowing them to pay instate tuition ... was a turnoff for so many people.

I don't care what Rick Perry does with HIS OWN MONEY and I don't care if Texas spends its own money to send their local illegals to college.

BUT, when Rick Perry tells me that I don't have a heart because I don't agree with how he wants to spend his money, and I don't want to use more federal money to do the same for everybody, he loses me. I have had a lifetime of lifer politicans telling me about what a horrible person I am because I don't want to contribute to their favorite charity, or I am not willing to mortage my childrens' futures for that favorite charity.

And illegal is not a race.

[kabar]

There is such visceral hatred among many conservatives for illegals that almost spreads over onto all hispanics.

That's the Dem talking points. Hispanics only make up about two-thirds of the illegal aliens. Portraying conservatives as having a "visceral hatred" about illegal aliens is so distorted and insulting to be almost beyond response. It is part of the demonization of Reps by the Left.

Conferring rights and privileges upon illegal aliens has a corrosive effect on the Rule of Law, the very foundation of our Republic. It is also a slap in the face to legal immigrants who have followed the rules and obeyed the laws. There are millions of immigrants waiting their turn overseas to enter the U.S. legally and approximately 40 million immigrants living in the U.S., most of whom followed the law. Since when is supporting the Rule of Law a manifestation of "visceral hatred" for the lawbreakers?

Perry’s very mild attempts to justify doing something that was actually very minor for children of illegals... i.e. allowing them to pay instate tuition ... was a turnoff for so many people.

Mild my a$$. Besides being against federal law, there is a sense of fairness that must be addressed. Why should people who entered this country illegally be given tuition breaks when an out of state student can't? And they are even being given admission benefits based on minority status. What about legal citizens of the US and Texas who cannot get into state schools because their place has been taken by an illegal?

Federal law prohibits state colleges and universities from providing in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens “on the basis of residence within the State”—unless the same in-state rates are offered to all citizens of the United States. Today, 12 states are circumventing this federal law, and the legal arguments offered to justify such actions are untenable, no matter what other policy arguments are offered in their defense. Because at least one federal court of appeals has held that there is no private right of action under the specific statute in question—§ 1623 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996—the U.S. Department of Justice must enforce this statutory provision against states that have violated federal law.

81% of likely voters oppose granting in-state tuition to illegal aliens in their state, with 12% supporting tuition breaks for illegal aliens (Rasmussen, August 2011). Who the hell is out of step, the vast majority of Americans or Rick Perry? There is a big fight over this issue in MD, the bluest of blue states, this year. It will be on the ballot after signatures were collected in record time to block the state legislature, which passed in-state tuition. Right now, it appears that it will be defeated by the people even in MD. In-state tuition for illegals is not only not wise policy, it is also stupid politically when the overwhelming position of the people is against it.

... that it might have an ultimate benefit by turning those kids into tax paying citizens.

It is against the law to hire illegals in this country and it is illegal for them to work here. So exactly how will they pay taxes?

We don’t punish children of rapists or murderers or children of people in prison for various crimes but we want to punish children whose parents crime was coming here illegally.

Of course we do. There are consequences when you commit a crime or multiple crimes. We separate children from their parents when they are incarcerated. The children suffer the consequences in many ways. An illegal alien child was given the privilege and benefits of attending American schools (K-12), school meals, free health care, etc and all the attendent benefits of living in one of the most prosperous and freest nations on earth. How is this somehow seen as being punishment because that "child" cannot receive in-state tuition? They can still attend universities if they pay out of state tuition like many Americans do.

And how do you define a child? If you look at the Texas law there is no age limit in terms of taking advantage of in-state tuition.

[Cheerio]

It should be stopped at the border.

BUT IT ISN'T AND IT WON'T BE. BOTH parties can be blamed - RATS want 30 million new voters, and GOP wants cheap labor that are not going to sue employers. So much for "Government by and for the people". The people of what nation?

[chooseascreennamepat]

“There is such visceral hatred among many conservatives for illegals that almost spreads over onto all hispanics.”

Is a bank robber an illegal ‘person’? Bet ur ass. I don't hate the person. I dislike what they have done. I don't just dislike Hispanic bank robbers.

But libs/socialists don't need truth, they USE lies.