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To: allmendream

Stop acting like a troll trying to disseminatte false propaganda. You’ve alreaddy been shown the historical evidence that naturalization “makes” an alien person a citizen subsequent to birth while denizaton and staturory jus soli “makes” an alien a citizen at birth by man-made law. Wheereas a natural born citizen is naturally a citizen at birth without anyone using a jus soli or jus sanguinis man-made law to make the person a citizen. Just because people have been careless and inconsistent in using the terminology does not mean the way they practiced the citizenship is any less valid.
Otherwise to remain consistent with historical usage of the term, you would have to ignore how they “deemed” and “reputed” aliens naturalized as citizens subsequent to their birth as the natural born citizen they were styled, which was at complete odds with the practice and intent of birth to two citizen parents within the sole allegiance of the sovereign.


409 posted on 05/10/2012 7:00:52 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

The allegiance of the sovereign? That is laughable. You think people have a natural allegiance to a hereditary sovereign - or is it the natural right of people to be free?

An unborn child is not an alien or foreigner and when they are born a U.S. citizen they are not “naturalized”.

U.S. law consistently uses the language “born or naturalized as a citizen”. One or the other. One is either born a citizen or naturalized as a citizen.


410 posted on 05/10/2012 7:18:32 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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