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To: New Jersey Realist

Your question was answered, but you just dishonestly denied the answer.

The father for purposes of determining citizenship is typically going to be the legal father, and not necessarily the birth father.

Hawaii Revised Statutes
§338-12 Evidentiary character of certificates. Certificates filed within thirty days after the time prescribed therefor shall be prima facie evidence of the facts therein stated. Data pertaining to the father of a child is prima facie evidence if:

(1) The alleged father is:

(A) The husband of the mother; or

(B) The acknowledged father of the child; or

(2) The father and child relationship has been established under chapter 584. Data pertaining to the alleged father acknowledging paternity of the child is admissible as evidence of paternity in any family court proceeding, including proceedings under chapter 584. [L 1949, c 327, §16; RL 1955, §57-15; HRS §338-12; am L 1975, c 66, §2(2); am L 1994, c 23, §1]


200 posted on 05/06/2012 5:51:32 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Thank you for answering the question. You start off by stating, “The father for purposes of determining citizenship is typically going to be the legal father, and not necessarily the birth father.” How do we know the legal father is a U.S. citizen? No where did I read that the father’s BC must be presented.

The truth is WhiskeyX, we really can’t prove our father’s citizenship without presenting a BC. All we get is our own BC or certificate of naturalization. If you have a BC that shows birth in the U.S. you are a natural born citizen. The other means you were made a citizen by law and therefore ineligible to become president. It is not a complicated issue.

I and others have posted many authorative statements regarding NBC clearly stating that all persons born on U.S. soil are native and or natural born citizens of this country. Why won’t you accept the fact that it is the VAST majority opinion with no supportive facts on your side?

President Grant said this and you are probably familiar with it:

“Among the highest duties of the Government is that to afford firm, sufficient, and equal protection to all its citizens, whether native-born or naturalized. Care should be taken that a right, carrying with it such support from the Government, should not be fraudulently obtained, and should be bestowed only upon full proof of a compliance with the law;” http://stateoftheunion.onetwothree.net/texts/18741207.html


203 posted on 05/06/2012 6:37:31 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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