That's the worst-case scenario, it attributes God-like powers to Obama, and wholesale cowardice to every other corner of government.
WOSG, you are a wonderful conservative with many great observations and ideas. However, back in 07-08, you preferred Romney over the other nominees. I've done a bit of in-forum reviewing, which is how I've come to admit and admire much of your thinking. But here's the truth: Romney was as bad then as he is now, and he LOST then, was REJECTED then, as he SHOULD be now. Don't you Party Standard people ever learn? I used to be a Party Standard person (hey, I dutifully voted for Schwarzenegger), and I learned! I know that I'm no smarter or better than you are. When are you going to smell the coffee???????
Frankly, I think we have a much better chance of successfully fighting off socialized medicine and higher taxes with Obama in office by a plurality fluke and a clear, documented majority opposed, than we have of fighting the same (which we would ABSOLUTELY ASSUREDLY GET) with a Republican in office pushing for his own legacy with all the key issues in alignment with Obama's, including socialized medicine and global warming ecotyranny.
Remember, WOSG, you more than most know in your heart that what I am saying is correct: Romney in office means a Republican power elite telling conservative Republicans: "Look, the only reason the GOP even has the White House is because of us 'moderates,' so sit down and shut up."
There comes a point -- and we have reached that point -- where voting "pragmatically" is voting against our own moral and finiancial self-interest.
“That’s the worst-case scenario, it attributes God-like powers to Obama”
Obama has Presidential powers, a compliant media that ignores his unconstitutional acts, and Nixonian grasp on power. And a second term mean no re-election worries. Not god-like, but it’s enough.
I am a conservative before I am a Republican, but a practical one; you dont have to be some GOP-E shill to recognize who you can get something out of and who will be just plain horrible. If I was in Mass, I’d be a Scott Brown supporter over that Obama/leftie Elizabeth “Fauxcohontas” Warren. Does that mean I am a gop shill or liberal for supporting a guy whose latest stunt is a silly Post Office bailout? Nope. I just prefer a 70% good guy to a 0%.
I did not support and vote for Romney in 08, but felt he’d at least have been better than McCain. I am in some ways aghast that we nominated the Romney-care guy in a year where Obamacare is #1 thing to overturn, but in other ways complaining about it misses the real point: Romney(*) will sign repeal of Obamacare. Obama wont. That’s your 70% to 0% right there.
(*) He only said it about 50 times in the debates, but some people dont believe a word he says. I cant help those folks, they’ll just have to believe it when it happens.
All the whining about Romney being as bad as Obama is bunk, and even the freepers saying it should know it. the only way this is concluded is by ignoring most of Mitt Romney’s real life, real positions and real approach. He’s the first potential president since Reagan to have spent most of his life in the private sector, and an objective review will show his agenda is more conservative than GWB’s “compassionate (aka BigGubmint) conservative” 2000 agenda, and his record not as liberal as FR hyperbole claims. But no point arguing with those who insist they have all the answers.
We can be purist and refuse to accept 70%, we can pretend it’s not 70% but some other number ... but at the end of the day, if you want conservative ideas to win, it would be crazy to assume that ‘Obama re-elected => conservative ideas win’ is a legit conclusion.
Actually, just as FDR solidifying the New Deal was a death blow to American governance that existed prior to FDR, Obama’s re-election is the hinge on which our future depends. One path - Euro-socialism - is the inevitable result of obama’s re-election. Why? because the Dems know that once they create a clientele for their programs, its easy to keep them and hard to repeal them - THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN COUNTING ON ALL ALONG. They know it would hurt politically to go far left, but Pelosi and Obama didnt care, they are that extreme. The ONLY way to stop them is complete and utter fumigation.
The other path - Romney’s win - will be a rejection of same, seen as such, and will lead to ‘renormalization’ of politics around a smaller govt role.
“Frankly, I think we have a much better chance of successfully fighting off socialized medicine and higher taxes with Obama in office by a plurality fluke and a clear, documented majority opposed”
Really?!? You should know better. THINK about it. We got that rejection in 2010. A whole GOP House. How much of Obamacare was dismantled in 2011? How much defunded? NONE OF IT!!! Obama re-elected = socialized medicine is here to stay, that is his legacy and you will need a crowbar to take it out. Even a GOP House didnt have the balls to cut off funding or go to the mat with a shutdown. And if Obama wins we will probably have a Dem senate with him anyway. So that means Obamacare repeal is toast.
“Romney in office means a Republican power elite telling conservative Republicans: “Look, the only reason the GOP even has the White House is because of us ‘moderates,’ so sit down and shut up.”
To which we answer - “H*LL NO.”
Perhaps what you fail to see is the possibility that you vote for Romney on Tuesday, hope he wins, and if he does, on Wednesday, join the ‘loyal conservative opposition’ to make sure every conservative promise he made was kept, and every liberal tendency is vigorously opposed. We’ll have Congressional allies on the right to be there.
“I dutifully voted for Schwarzenegger”
As Mr T put it: I pity the fool. “where voting “pragmatically” is voting against our own moral and finiancial self-interest.” -— sounds contradictory; then change the algorithm. I cant save Cali.
I appreciate your kind words but what’s funny is that people makes assumptions. I am not as tied up in caring for the GOP-E as you seem to think,
and I know we all will make our own decisions. And for most of us, we dont know what the right answer even if we pretend to.
All I know is this: If the answer is “Let Obama get re-elected” It’s a pretty stupid question!
Obama isn’t Working. Fire him.