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To: verga
Ok, here is a real solution:

Abolish government employee unions. They are already protected under civil service laws. That is enough.

In those states that currently have caps on the number of charters, remove these caps. Allow God-centered schools instead of restricting charters to only the religious worldview of godless.

Allow tax credits. Any individual or business who donates money to a private voucher fund, or sponsors a child would deduct the full amount from their taxes. For those who are poor, and do not directly pay income or property taxes, they would be get a reimbursement.

Allow any group of teachers at any government school to vote to turn their government school into a charter. This has already been successfully done at Green Dot schools in Los Angeles.

Gradually, reduce the amount of government involvement in education, on every level, over the next 25 years, as the private infrastructure is built and private philanthropy can assume the burden of educating our nation's children. Perhaps a once a year campaign similar to the United Way effort could be instituted, however, the funds would be directed to the private scholarship fund of the worker's choice.

Finally, currently about 3 to 5% of the nation's children are homeschooled. Homeschooling when done from the beginning, has an excellent record and, on average, homeschooled children **far** exceed institutionalized children in academic achievement. As adults, too, former homeschoolers have **far** less social pathology. These statistics can be found on the Homeschool Legal Defense Association website.

While homeschooling is the most ideal way to rear a child to adulthood, sadly, not all children can be homeschooled, for many reasons: Selfishness, materialism, health, intelligence, illiteracy, poor coping skills, lack of discipline, extreme poverty, etc. on the part of the parents. These children will need to be institutionalized for their schooling. We need orphanages, too, but no one is claiming that this is the best way to rear a child.

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39 posted on 05/06/2012 6:17:55 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: wintertime
Ok, here is a real solution:

Finally

Abolish government employee unions. They are already protected under civil service laws. That is enough.

Would you include police and firefighters in this as well, How about workers at county and State institutions such as hospitals and mental facilities. Some police and fire fighters unions provide "Hazard" insurance that are self insurance since other companies rates are to high for this.

In those states that currently have caps on the number of charters, remove these caps.

Good idea, Would these school have the option of refusing admittance to a school? or would they required to take ALL applicants on a first come first serve basis?

Allow God-centered schools instead of restricting charters to only the religious worldview of godless.

They already exist they are called parochial schools. Also you complained that at your daughter's or daughter-in-law's Catholic school she was the only one that did not support Obozo. Would these schools have to take ALL students on a first come first serve basis? Would they have to modify their curriculum to support all religious beliefs? For instance If the child of Wiccan parents applied to an evangelical school could they practice their faith?

Allow tax credits. Any individual or business who donates money to a private voucher fund, or sponsors a child would deduct the full amount from their taxes.

Good idea no disagreement.

For those who are poor, and do not directly pay income or property taxes, they would be get a reimbursement.

I disagree completely, 48% of our population does not pay federal income tax. This is enough of a "break" they are not entitled to more of my money unless I choose to give it to them.

Allow any group of teachers at any government school to vote to turn their government school into a charter. This has already been successfully done at Green Dot schools in Los Angeles.

Is this based on a simple majority or super majority? What about the teachers that don't want to work for a charter school? What about the students that don't want to attend a charter school or if their parents don't want them to? Where would they attend? How would the Charter school reimburse the county for land and building?

Gradually, reduce the amount of government involvement in education, on every level, over the next 25 years, as the private infrastructure is built and private philanthropy can assume the burden of educating our nation's children. Perhaps a once a year campaign similar to the United Way effort could be instituted, however, the funds would be directed to the private scholarship fund of the worker's choice.

Great idea, 100% agreement.

Finally, currently about 3 to 5% of the nation's children are homeschooled. Homeschooling when done from the beginning, has an excellent record and, on average, homeschooled children **far** exceed institutionalized children in academic achievement. As adults, too, former homeschoolers have **far** less social pathology. These statistics can be found on the Homeschool Legal Defense Association website.

There are three types of lies, Lies D@mn lies, and Statistics. Find and independent agency to support your numbers via a double blind study.

While homeschooling is the most ideal way to rear a child to adulthood, sadly, not all children can be homeschooled, for many reasons: Selfishness, materialism, health, intelligence, illiteracy, poor coping skills, lack of discipline, extreme poverty, etc. on the part of the parents. These children will need to be institutionalized for their schooling. We need orphanages, too, but no one is claiming that this is the best way to rear a child.

So you want to take these children from their parents and put them in an institution? Who is going to determine which students don't fit into your program? Are you going to have "Education panels" or "internment panels"? I was with you pretty much on everything until you went off the rails with this last one. Might be time to rethink this.

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There is no excuse for this.

40 posted on 05/06/2012 7:44:18 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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