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Analysis: Nicolas Sarkozy's miracle is nowhere to be seen at Paris debate
The Telegraph UK ^ | 5/3/12 | Benedict Brogan, Paris

Posted on 05/02/2012 4:57:32 PM PDT by Cincinna

Nicolas Sarkozy needed a miracle last night to head off a defeat that looks increasingly inevitable. A marathon, at times violent debate with Francois Hollande was his chance to knock the challenger off his increasingly confident stride. But despite some brutal exchanges, he failed to produce a killer blow.

Twenty million people were expected to tune in for a contest that lasted nearly three hours and was broadcast on all networks. It was a real debate, the presenters reduced to mute timekeepers as the candidates knocked spots off each other.

There was no quarter given. Mr Sarkozy called his opponent a liar and suggested he should have known about fellow socialist Dominique Strauss Kahn’s varied sex life; Mr Hollande described him as arrogant and tried to smear him back by raising a corruption scandal.

On Europe, taxes, immigration and above all what the character of a president should be, they argued over detail – often to impenetrable depth - and levelled charges of dishonesty and bad faith against each other. They even dredged up decades-old accusations of political double dealing.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: debate; europeanunion; france; frenchelection; germany; sarkozyvhollande; socialiasm; unitedkingdom
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To: Cincinna
A socialist in power in France would be a catastrophe for France, which is the fifth largest economy in the world.

I shudder to think about that - it's bad enough what's going on here in the US with our own home-grown socialist.

Thanks so much for your updates, Cincinna... I haven't had much time to keep up with the campaigns in France. I appreciate your comments.

21 posted on 05/02/2012 11:15:28 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in peace, and thank you, Andrew Breitbart)
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To: Cincinna; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Cincinna. Sarko swung the election back his way with his rousing speech the other night and now this debate performance. Holland’s going to wind up wetting his pants, then falling down and breaking both legs.


22 posted on 05/02/2012 11:31:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cincinna

I WILL UPDATE AFTER THE DEBATE IS REBROADCAST IN FULL ON AMERICAN TV


Can you find video online of the debate with english translation?


23 posted on 05/02/2012 11:40:10 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Cincinna
Thanks again...I'll check out the link... WoW! 20 million watched that...pretty remarkable. I see the media thinks it won't affect the voters but they are mistaken I think...debates 'do' matter. Evidence of that was Romneys refusal to take on Newt one on one.

What an insane world of politics here and overseas....but then they are fighting for positions in the world order coming and the "Power Tease" for those positions can be beyond tantalizing!

24 posted on 05/03/2012 11:45:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: Cincinna; afraidfortherepublic; mojo114; seenenuf; LucyT; Think free or die; DollyCali; ...
 

According to the latest Ifop poll data for today, May 4, the numbers have moved some in Sarko's favor, continuing the trend since the first round.  HOLLANDE 52% SARKOZY 48%

Neither the endorsement of centrist François, (a first: no centrist has ever aligned with the Socialists)  nor the debate has moved the numbers.       

Because of French law, election campaigning must end at midnight tonight (6pm EST)

Hollande, who is in way over his head, and actually yawned during the debate, is angry about Obama's apparent support for Sarko.   

Sources close to the WH, say the Obama administration is very concerned about a possible socialist victory. we all know Obama has only one thing in his mind, his own re-election, and being forced to deal with a socialist, and be photographed with a socialist is the last thing his campaign wants. Especially since Hollande is completely unknown in the US. Obama doesn't even know Hollande, has never met him.  Sarkozy, OTOH, has a huge personal following in the US, and received the overwhelming majority of votes of French citizens living in the US in the first round.   

With a media blackout after tonight, there will be no news.   

If anything comes up, I'll keep you all posted. 

A win is still possible, and if the numbers continue to tighten, it would make it difficult, if not impossible, for a socialist government to form a strong majority, and implement their policies.   The legislative elections are in June. 

25 posted on 05/04/2012 1:27:21 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Cincinna

Thanks, Cincinna. It’s been so helpful to have your info and updates. Fingers are crossed that when they step in the booth the French will vote to stay with Sarko. Even IF he and BHO have been saying nice things about each other lately.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 2:42:50 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Cincinna
Thanks for the update. Last I heard the gap between the two was 8-10% so if your Ifop poll is accurate that's good news.

Don't know the different polling agencies, so I have no idea what Ifop is.

Sunday will be interesting.

27 posted on 05/04/2012 3:57:20 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Cincinna; afraidfortherepublic; mojo114; seenenuf; LucyT; Think free or die; DollyCali; ...

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I WILL UPDATE AS MORE INFO IS AVAILABLE 

 LATEST POLL FROM IFOP 52-48   This narrowing continues the trend that began after the first round which Sarko list by 1.5%   

From a senior analysts and specialist on polling: “Watch Friday’s polls closely,” said Dominique Reynie, a senior research at Paris’s Institute of Political Studies. “If they show another narrowing, then Sarko has a chance. There’s no reason why the trend wouldn’t continue through the weekend.”

Also: From the FT via Drudge: Wealthy French eye move across the Channel Fear of 75% tax rate prompts many to look at London, Brussels, Singapore and NY to escape the 75% confiscatory tax on income of high wage earners. 

Of course they will take not only their money with them, but their businesses, jobs, and purchasing power.  

Socialism stinks, and they all fear it. 

28 posted on 05/04/2012 10:44:50 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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