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To: Tublecane
Huh? How could the location you were born make you a citizen without “legal circumstances” coming into play?

One is a "native" of the place where one's "nativity", i.e., one's birth, occurred. Of course, in most cases that makes one a citizen of that place, although I dispute this interpretation for so-called "anchor babies". So, I grant your point that "native" is freighted with legal considerations and I could have worded that differently. My point, however, is that there is a persistent tendency to confuse "natural born" and "native born". They are not the same. I also believe that there is a calculated effort to propagate this confusion as a way to "prepare the ground" should it ever come to the Supreme Court.

40 posted on 05/01/2012 10:14:55 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Romney's judicial appointments were more radical than Obama's)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“My point, however, is that there is a persistent tendency to confuse “natural born” and ‘native born’. They are not the same.”

There is a persistent tendency among people who don’t like Obama and/or anchor babies to argue seperate status for native and natural borns, but I’ve never seen that to be the case under U.S. law. Perhaps that’s because SCOTUS by chance has never ruled on a case concerning presidential eligibility, or if they have specifically about the eligibility of native borns. If they had, birthers’d esteem it as highly as Wickard or Plessy, and we’d be back to where we started.

There are, so far as the vast majority of professional and lay legal choppers are concerned, two categories of citizenship: born and naturalized. This phantom third category of born but not eligible to be president citizens seems to have popped up out of nowhere, and has never been glimpsed by me in the wild, as it were.


61 posted on 05/01/2012 10:32:52 AM PDT by Tublecane
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