“It’s applicable on the child. It applies to the alien parents.”
I still don’t understand the difference. I also don’t understand, way back when this all started, you insisted on saying the law only applies to aliens when clearly it is “applicable upon” citizen children. Couldn’t you have mentioned it was applicable upon citizens from the start and saved us a lot of trouble?
“Just like the law in question is about the parents!”
It’s about the parents insofar as it’s about their children. It’s about the children citizens, as you’ve admitted it establishes their citizenship status and is “applicable upon” them.
“In other words...if the alien parent doesn’t want the child to have U.S citizenship then don’t let it be born here.”
Also, if the child is born here it will have citizenship status for as long as it doesn’t renounce it. Which kinda sorta almost maybe...no, wait, definitely means it applies to the children.
“The child has no control over where it’s born. The parent does!”
So what? No natural born citizens have control over where they’re born. That doesn’t mean laws controlling their status don’t apply to them.
“How obtuse can you get?!”
Not as obtuse as thinking that means the law doesn’t apply to them. Your thinking the law applies only to parents because they’re the only ones who can do anything about it before the child is born is the epitome of obtuseness.
I also dont understand, way back when this all started, you insisted on saying the law only applies to aliens when clearly it is applicable upon citizen children.
Because it does only apply to aliens. Their children never were aliens, and that being from the moment of their birth!
Couldnt you have mentioned it was applicable upon citizens from the start and saved us a lot of trouble?
You should have been smart enough to have figured that out. Instead you go on and on and on and...well, you get the picture.
Its about the parents insofar as its about their children.
I see you're qualifying your statements again.
Its about the children citizens...
No, it's about a choice the child's alien parent/s have and the law is informing them of the consequences of their actions. Have the child in the US or have it elsewhere...plain and simple.
...it establishes their citizenship status and is applicable upon them.
If the child's parents don't know what the law is and the child is born in the US, then their child will be, automatically, designated a US citizen, thus making the law "applicable upon" the child, not the parent. The parent/s have to go through a different set of hurdles to become U.S citizens and they also will never be natural born citizens despite becoming citizens as they too are naturalized.
And that's for legal aliens, like students, in case you've missed that tidbit along the way.
No natural born citizens have control over where theyre born.
Well if they weren't born in the nation of their citizen parents they wouldn't even be natural born citizens, would they?
Your thinking the law applies only to parents because theyre the only ones who can do anything about it before the child is born is the epitome of obtuseness.
So who does have control over where the child is born? The when is usually pretty easy to figure out within a month or two.