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To: philman_36
You're arguing like a 12-year-old who's just discovered how clever he (thinks he) is.

Where in reply 4 did I say the child was an alien?

You said 8 USC only applied to someone who was an alien first.

8 USC § 1401 begins, "The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth."

It doesn't say "children of the following," just "the following." That is, the people who are citizens at birth. That is, children (unless you're going to argue that "at birth" doesn't necessarily imply "child"--I wouldn't put it past you at this point).

So if you say USC 8 only applies to people who are aliens first, and it applies to newborns, then you must be claiming that those newborns are aliens first. Even if you didn't say so in so many words, because I think then even you might realize the absurdity of your position.

As it is, I think the reply you're looking for is "I misspoke." Or maybe just "Oops."

168 posted on 05/01/2012 2:38:02 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
You're arguing like a 12-year-old who's just discovered how clever he (thinks he) is.
Then that puts you at what...a 6 year old, thumb sucking level who will shortly be calling for his Mommy?

You said 8 USC only applied to someone who was an alien first.
And? You haven't shown that it doesn't.
Did I call the child an alien or the parents?

That is, the people who are citizens at birth.
So how does that not make the law apply only to aliens?
They can't be citizens until they're born right? Is rain a cloud or is rain only rain after it falls?
Or are you saying that the section under discussion doesn't apply to children who are born to aliens?

As it is, I think the reply you're looking for is "I misspoke." Or maybe just "Oops."
I surely know how to say both of those and I have no need to.

181 posted on 05/01/2012 3:21:16 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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