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To: Tublecane
Ah, I see I was right, and that somehow you would bring up the limbo between birth and conception.
Perhaps you should go back and read this.
When is someone who's a "citizen of the United States at birth" ever an alien? In the womb?
Did I ever say the child was an alien? (specific reply, please) Or did I only say that the parent, or parents, were aliens?

Can you not recognize when someone is having sport with a rhetorical question?

Once they are born, the law applies to them and they are citizens. Therefore the law applies to citizens, and you were wrong to say it doesn’t.
No, I'm not wrong.
The law applies to the parents, aka aliens. It tells them, and everyone else, that once the child of that alien is born they are a citizen of the U.S. You can't put the cart before the horse.
Why can't you grasp that?

150 posted on 05/01/2012 1:28:05 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

“The law applies to the parents, aka aliens. It tells them, and everyone else, that once the child of that alien is born they are a citizen of the U.S. You can’t put the cart before the horse.
Why can’t you grasp that?”

Oh, I don’t know, because it’s as slippery as goose excrement. Whence this notion that a law can tell everyone that the child of half-alien parents can be born a citizen when certain criteria are met and somehow not apply to the children it is telling people about? That makes no sense. It is every bit as much about the children as it is about the parents.

Are you playing some sort of rhetorical sport now with the telling part? Yes, it tells the parents and everyone else about the children. It can’t tell the children themselves, as they won’t possibly be able to understand for a few years at least. Is that the point? That they won’t learn about it until later, and by that time it’ll already be an established fact that they’re citizens so the law won’t any longer apply? That’s cheap.

Saying the law applies to the children is not putting the cart before the horse. The moment they are born, the law applies to them. Their birth, their citizenship, and the law’s application all arrive at the same time.


164 posted on 05/01/2012 2:28:10 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: philman_36

“Perhaps you should go back and read this...

Did I ever say the child was an alien?”

I don’t need a refresher. That, or something like it, was exactly your first reply to me. I said then as I’ll say now the reason I brought up the possibility of aliens birthing citizens is that that’s what the law is about. Therefore, the law does apply to citizens, which you had denied.

Since then you’ve admitted the children of aliens can be citizens and that that’s what the law’s about. Yet you still maintain, somehow, the law doesn’t apply to the children which the law is about.


165 posted on 05/01/2012 2:33:15 PM PDT by Tublecane
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