[philman_36]

Except we happen to know the sons of British subjects and men themselves born British subjects were eligible under the Grandfather Clause. Which, when you think about it, casts doubt on this whole question of intent.

Notice, Larry - Moe and Curly, that Tublecane completely left out the loyalty aspect.
Under his design Benedict Arnold could have become POTUS if he had been allowed to become a citizen and stay here .

[Tublecane]

“Notice, Larry - Moe and Curly, that Tublecane completely left out the loyalty aspect.”

I didn’t leave it out, really, since it is the issue looming over the argument. My larger point is that you can’t assume disloyalty on the basis of being born to British subjects. Nor, furthermore, does being born yourself a British subject. Certianly our Framers weren’t afraid of extending eligibility to such persons, as made obvious by the Grandfather Clause.

Bringing up merely muddies the issue. He wasn’t going to run for president, nor would he ever be elected, so it’s moot point.

[Tublecane]

“Notice, Larry - Moe and Curly, that Tublecane completely left out the loyalty aspect.”

I didn’t leave it out, really, since it is the issue looming over the argument. My larger point is that you can’t assume disloyalty on the basis of being born to British subjects. Nor, furthermore, does being born yourself a British subject allow the presumption of disloyalty. Certianly our Framers weren’t afraid of extending eligibility to such persons, as made obvious by the Grandfather Clause.

Bringing up Benedict Arnold merely muddies the issue. He wasn’t going to run for president, nor would he ever be elected, so it’s moot point.